barcamp - the open space analog? has anybody heard about this?

Deborah Hartmann deborah at hartmann.net
Thu Oct 18 21:18:47 PDT 2007


Well said, Kaliya.

 > Barcamp is not open space.
 > It is a copy of a copy of openspace.

It starts out with a bang, but fails to build a real community of peers, 
in my opinion. Which I, of course, find disappointing.

Kaliya Hamlin wrote:
> Barcamp is not open space.
> It is a copy of a copy of openspace.
>
> The "copy" was foocamp an invitation only illetist event put on by 
> oreilly media it stands for "friends of oreilly" they do " alpha geek 
> run at the wall with sharpies" to create the agenda -very in intense 
> and not very welcoming.
>
> Barcamp was a copy of this process put on by people who had never even 
> been to foocamp.
>
> I was at the first barcamp and have been to foocamp. Neither are 
> openspace.
>
> The reason I started unconference.Net was to educate the tech 
> community about good process including open space -how to do what they 
> are trying to go well and not thinking they invented it (cause they 
> thought that)
> Kaliya 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 18, 2007, at 4:39 PM, Yana Demenko <yana at demenko.info 
> <mailto:yana at demenko.info>> wrote:
>
>> Dear friends, 
>>
>> I just found interesting information about BlogCamp CIS and Baltics - 
>> unconference event on new media, blogs and web 2.0 that took place in 
>> Kyiv, Ukraine on Oct. 13-14, 2007. 
>>
>> The organizers of this event are sharing an article which describes 
>> the format and results of it. Those of you who understand Russian may 
>> have a look at this link 
>> http://blogcamp.com.ua/index.php?title=Main_Page. 
>>
>> My first reaction on this article was: "No doubts, this is an open 
>> space event!". The only difference is the length of the 
>> sessions (they used only 20 minutes for each one - 60 sessions per 2 
>> days! Wow :)) and no circle for the opening ... other things seems 
>> the same to me. All this process organizers calls "*unconference 
>> event in the **barcamp format*". A bit more about barcamp format I 
>> found here http://barcamp.org/ (in English).  
>>
>> Has anybody heard about this? 
>>
>> Sweet dreams to Europe, have a nice day, Australia, good morning 
>> America :-)
>>
>> Greetings from Ukraine, 
>> Yana  
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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