"rules" and self-organization

openspacekorea openspacers at openspacekorea.org
Thu May 31 16:52:12 PDT 2007 

your whole point of we need to be as intentional and catalytic as possible
is great.
 
it has dawned on me that the point you've been trying to make might be the
resonnance of the self-organizing nature of our conversations amongt us on
this oslist... in fact that seems to be what happens in mindful, peaceful
conversation...
 
with much respect...
 
Love & Peace,
 
park 

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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Kaliya
Hamlin
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:58 AM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: "rules" and self-organization


It is nice you all want to be so 'free form' about things and 'believe' that
humans just 'self-organize'. 
 
My experience has taught me that leaning to far in this direction actually
creates a lot of dissonance for people and leads to spaces with negative
energy.

Having a person or better a group of people taking responsiblity for holding
the space creating a nest if you will... within which people feel safe to
'open up' and explore with each other possibilities.... out of this space
this nest is born new action and activity.

At this time on our planet we need to be as intentional and catalytic as
possible in creating space for new possibilities of our civilization to
emerge....being passive and hoping that people conditioned the way they are
in our current culture will some how 'magically' 'awake' and 'self-organize'
is to me hopelessly naive. 

Diffusing the simple tools and 'rules'Â  or principles and practices is one
of the things that could make the  most difference at this time on our
planet. 

My experience is that professional  communities (that is people coming
together to use this methodology in peer-to-peer professional network
(outside 'AN' organization) settings) seeking to take action together learn
the way OST works and take to it....it becomes the new norm -the shared way
of doing things together that they work on.  It lets all the passion talent
and energy come forward and the people who are interested find each other
because there is enough structure ... just enough that it is functional and
effective for them to spend their time in the space together.   THIS IS
important. I somethings think people undervalue peoples time and energy by
all this 'it just happens' talk....well if you help it happen and you follow
some simple steps it is like 10x better.  THAT MATTERS for the state of the
world and to respect peoples time and energy for showing up.

 




On May 30, 2007, at 4:19 PM, openspacekorea wrote:


great! i agree with your point 100%.
 
thank u...
 
Love and Peace,
 
park

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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ralph
Copleman
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:12 PM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: "rules" and self-organization


One way to test what is essential (what Artur termed "micro") and what is
not would be to open some space without mentioning either the four
principles or the law of two feet. Â Or anything else.

If self-organization occurs in os, would not the "space" still "open"
without things we have come to believe are essential? Â I'm betting it
would, or at least could. Â Perhaps all we need is a room and a theme and a
wall. Â Maybe some tea and coffee. Â How free are we? Â 

Picture it. Â You're invited, so you show up because the theme interests you
or you know the inviter. Â You get there, see the theme statement on the
wall, and nothing but a circle of chairs. Â Nothing. Â Not even a
facilitator. Â Others arrive. Â The only things you share at this point are
your presence and your presumed interest in the theme.

If self-organization is real, is not the space already open? Â It may take
longer, but might relevant, useful conversations begin?

I think the facilitator meets our need for an authority figure (a perfectly
natural, good thing, most of the time), and the ideas about feet, insects,
etc. a minimal unifying structure (think of it perhaps as curbs to a
boulevard?) that steer us into an opening, a place we have agreed, by
showing up, we want to be. Â OS in action resembles self-organization, but
it isn't the pure thing. Â (Not that it really matters. Â I love it simply
because it’s the best way I know to show people what evolution on Earth is
really like. Â And it produces great results for my clients.)

One more rumpled notion occurs this morning... Â What about the storytelling
role, the thing we do as facilitators to connect people entering an open
space to a greater whole? Â I know this is important, but is not the
facilitator simply reminding people of a story they already know, deep down?
 If self-organization/evolution is real, it’s been working far longer
than humans have even  been around.  Might we not trust this process? Â
How far can we go?


Ralph Copleman






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