OS with engineering consultants - help with theme please!

Mon Mar 26 05:34:21 PDT 2007

Joelle,

Just a quick 'thank you' for your input.  A lot of
your comments resonated with me.  I am at the early
stages of the proposal, and would expect to go and
listen. work through and arrive at a theme - but it
was just great to see it written

I will keep you posted!

Kind regards,

Anne
--- Joelle Lyons Everett <JLEShelton at aol.com> wrote:

> Anne--
> 
> From my experience, you likely need a meeting with a
> design team made up of 
> representatives from the various groups that you
> mention in the organization.   
> Allow enough time to play with the theme until you
> get beyond the obvious 
> expressions, to something that the team feels
> excited about.
> 
> I have found that as an outsider, I am a poor
> predictor of what will 
> resonate, intrigue, and excite people within the
> organization.   Some design teams 
> have come up with themes that totally left me cold,
> but they attracted lots of 
> people to the meeting and started lively
> conversations.   Your role can be to 
> listen for what brings up energy and excitement (in
> the design team work), 
> perhaps combine a couple of thoughts or statements
> and help the group shape the 
> theme so it reads easily and is not too long or
> complicated.   In other words, 
> you are a facilitator here, not the proposer.
> 
> In a case or two where the organization was not
> interested in getting 
> involved with this process, the resulting OS did not
> work as well.   When you have a 
> design team and it is truly representative, you will
> begin to see the issues 
> and coalitions that are likely to show up in Open
> Space.   These people who are 
> involved in the OS before the actual meeting date
> can also be your allies 
> within the organization, drawing in other people by
> their own involvement and 
> enthusiasm.
> 
> All my best wishes for a project that should be an
> exciting one!
> 
> Joelle
> 
> Joelle Lyons Everett
> Sound Resources
> Shelton, Washington, USA
> 
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Dear Carla

Thanks for your answer, I love that way of converging as well, but this =
time
I don=B4t think it will be ripe to do that. To my judgement the theme is =
too
wide and the time too little, so we will think about other ways to go on
afterwards =96 maybe more OST-meetings or online as they are normally =
spread
out all over Sweden. Or they may go for more time for the actual =
OS-meeting
=96 we=B4ll see that in our planning-meeting. But as I see the =
circumstances
now, this seems like a good way.

=20

Thanks also to Harrison =96 of course I=B4ve looked it up in =93the =
book=94!
Remembered it was there.

Best regards

Thomas

=20

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Fr=E5n: Vliex, Carla (cvl) [mailto:CVL at tg.nl]=20
Skickat: den 25 mars 2007 23:46
Till: thomas at openspaceconsulting.com
=C4mne: RE: voting - after coming home from an OST-meeting

=20

Dear Thomas

=20

After a very busy time, I am back here on the list.=20

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I remeber I had a same question some years ago. I learned from the list, =
I
think it was Michael Pannewitz, a quite other way to vote. I used it =
ever
aftherwards. It is very simple; just open space again and ask who wants =
to
bring one of the subjects (early mentioned) one step further. It is =
simple
and I think more inline with the proces of Open space than te stickie
voting.=20

=20

wishing you succes with the Open Space meeting

=20

warm regards=20

Carla Vliex from the Netherlands=20

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Met vriendelijke groet,

=20

drs. Carla Vliex

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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Thomas
Herrmann
Sent: zondag 25 maart 2007 23:14
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: voting - after coming home from an OST-meeting

Dear friends in Open Space      =20

I am having discussions with a friend of mine who runs a company which =
does
surveys for companies in a quite interesting and easy way =96 by using
Internet. In September I will facilitate an OST-meeting with about 350
people =96 only 5-6 hours. I would like to try letting the participants =
have
the documentation sent and allowing time for reading before voting on =
which
are most important to them.=20

=20

A couple of times I=B4ve let participants answer via email =96 which of =
course
is a lot of work. So in order to do one less thing I=B4d like to try =
this
software which we very easily can modify to meet our needs.

=20

My question is: What recommendations/ideas do you have for the voting. =
When
I use stickies in physical voting (which I=B4ve done with quite large =
groups)
I usually give them something like 5 votes to use as they like =96 all =
five on
one issue or spread out. This could be one alternative for this software
too. I know some of you let people put 10 votes on the top one, 9 on the
second most important and so on until 1.=20

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So I would appreciate pros and cons that you see/have experienced about
these methods and any other suggestions.

Warmest regards

Thomas Herrmann Phone +46 (0)709-98 97 81
Open Space Consulting Fax +46 (0)300-713 89
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Carla<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

Thanks for your answer, I love that =
way of
converging as well, but this time I don=B4t think it will be ripe to do =
that. To
my judgement the theme is too wide and the time too little, so we will =
think
about other ways to go on afterwards – maybe more OST-meetings or =
online
as they are normally spread out all over <st1:country-region =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place
 w:st=3D"on">Sweden</st1:place></st1:country-region>. Or they may go for =
more
time for the actual OS-meeting – we=B4ll see that in our =
planning-meeting.
But as I see the circumstances now, this seems like a good =
way.<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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Thanks also to <st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Harrison</st1:place>
– of course I=B4ve looked it up in “the book”! =
Remembered it
was there.<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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Vliex, Carla (cvl) [mailto:CVL at tg.nl] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Skickat:</span></b> den 25 mars 2007 =
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Thomas</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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After a very busy time, I am back =
here on
the list. <o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

I remeber I had a same question =
some years
ago. I learned from the list, I think it was Michael Pannewitz, a quite =
other
way to vote. I used it ever aftherwards. It is very simple; just open =
space
again and ask who wants to bring one of the subjects (early mentioned) =
one step
further. It is simple and I think more inline with the proces of Open =
space
than te stickie voting. <o:p></o:p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DArial><span =
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face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</spa=
n></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Thomas =
Herrmann<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> zondag 25 maart =
2007 23:14<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> voting - after =
coming
home from an OST-meeting</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Dear friends in Open
Space       <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

I am having discussions with a friend of mine who =
runs a
company which does surveys for companies in a quite interesting and easy =
way
– by using Internet. In September I will facilitate an OST-meeting =
with
about 350 people – only 5-6 hours. I would like to try letting the
participants have the documentation sent and allowing time for reading =
before
voting on which are most important to them. =
<o:p></o:p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

A couple of times I=B4ve let participants answer via =
email
– which of course is a lot of work. So in order to do one less =
thing I=B4d
like to try this software which we very easily can modify to meet our =
needs.<o:p></o:p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

My question is: What recommendations/ideas do you =
have for
the voting. When I use stickies in physical voting (which I=B4ve done =
with quite
large groups) I usually give them something like 5 votes to use as they =
like
– all five on one issue or spread out. This could be one =
alternative for
this software too. I know some of you let people put 10 votes on the top =
one, 9
on the second most important and so on until 1. =
<o:p></o:p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>So I would appreciate pros and cons that you see/have
experienced about these methods and any other =
suggestions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Warmest regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span lang=3DSV =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Thomas
Herrmann Phone +46 (0)709-98 97 81<br>
Open Space Consulting Fax +46 (0)300-713 89<br>
Pens=E9v=E4gen 4<br>
434 46 Kungsbacka, Sweden<br>
Email: </span></font><font size=3D2><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><a
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>www.openspaceconsulting.com</span></font></a><=
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