More from those MBAs

Tue Mar 13 11:50:45 PDT 2007

Yes, indeed OST does somehow "even" work with MBA's!

I had the pleasure of conducting a 4 hour OST meeting with 20 graduates of
the (Russian) President's Management Training Program in fall of last year.
This meeting took place as part of a labor psychology conference at a North
Caucasus university. 

And of course they took to it like ducks to water!

The topic was Program Improvement.

In the 7-8 years of the program, it turns out that not once had anybody
sought feedback from program students or graduates!

I hope to get pictures from that OST meeting onto flickr.

Best,
Raffi
San Diego, Calif.

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Ah – The Expert Syndrome! And experts can be helpful if you clearly
understand the question for which they have the answer. But more often than
not I find that people are foggy about the question. So when it comes to the
“right” people – particularly in a community setting – the ones with the
question, a question they really care about are the right ones for a start.
And then strange things can happen, particularly if the people discover that
the answer to their question lies right in the middle of their own
experience, contacts, and energy. At that point, they turn out to be The
Expert. And that is called empowerment. And who knows, the people may well
come up with a solution (answer) that nobody every thought of before.
Experts, on the other hand, tend to provide answers to questions they know
about – and if you don’t fit into their box, you just don’t fit. Of course
if the people do need some more help, there are such things as phones and
internet.

Harrison 

Harrison Owen

7808 River Falls Drive

Potomac, Maryland   20854

Phone 301-365-2093

Skype hhowen

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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Bui K.
Petersen
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 7:11 PM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Is whatever information present the right information??

Thanks to everyone on this list, I am learning more and more about OST. But
every couple of weeks I get a new question.

"Whoever comes is the right people" totally makes sense.  But what about the
information needed? We have all been at "conventional" meetings where
nothing was accomplished due to lack of proper information. How do we deal
with that in Open Space? Obviously the invitations is critical but we can't
really be sure that the people with expertise will show up unless we pay
them. Can we?

When we are working with groups or communities with few resources, how can
we make sure that the right information (legal, technical etc.) is in the
room?

Looking forward to everyone's wonderful and enlightened responses.

Thanks,

Búi

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Búi K. Petersen, Cert. ConRes.
mediator and facilitator
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c.solutions 
Vancouver, B.C. Canada 
Phone: 604.724.4954
Web: www.buildconsensus.ca

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Ah – The Expert Syndrome! And experts
can be helpful if you clearly understand the question for which they have the
answer. But more often than not I find that people are foggy about the
question. So when it comes to the “right” people – particularly
in a community setting – the ones with the question, a question they
really care about are the right ones for a start. And then strange things can
happen, particularly if the people discover that the answer to their question
lies right in the middle of their own experience, contacts, and energy. At that
point, they turn out to be The Expert. And that is called empowerment. And who
knows, the people may well come up with a solution (answer) that nobody every
thought of before. Experts, on the other hand, tend to provide answers to
questions they know about – and if you don’t fit into their box,
you just don’t fit. Of course if the people do need some more help, there
are such things as phones and internet.

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Personal website</span></font> <a
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>

Thanks to everyone on
this list, I am learning more and more about OST. But every couple of weeks I
get a new question. 
 
"Whoever comes is the right people" totally makes sense.  But
what about the information needed? We have all been at "conventional"
meetings where nothing was accomplished due to lack of proper information. How
do we deal with that in Open Space? Obviously the invitations is critical but
we can't really be sure that the people with expertise will show up unless we
pay them. Can we? 
 
When we are working with groups or communities with few resources, how can we
make sure that the right information (legal, technical etc.) is in the room? 
 
Looking forward to everyone's wonderful and enlightened responses. 
 
Thanks, 
 
Búi

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<p style='margin-left:.5in'><strong><b><font size=2 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica'>Búi K. Petersen,</span></font></b></strong><font
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mediator and facilitator</span></font><br>
-------------------------------- <br>
<b><font size=4 color="#cc6600" face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;
font-family:Helvetica;color:#CC6600;font-weight:bold'>c.solutions</span></font></b>
<font size=2 face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica'><br>
Vancouver, B.C. Canada </span></font><br>
<font size=2 face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica'>Phone:
604.724.4954<br>
Web: <a href="http://www.buildconsensus.ca">www.buildconsensus.ca</a></span></font></p>

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