Circles within rectangles

Michael M Pannwitz mmpanne at boscop.org
Fri Dec 14 00:06:33 PST 2007


Dear Christine,
thats about 10 000 square meters (only a small part of the world thinks 
in feet) and comparing that to the approximately 3000 squaremeters we 
had for the event with 2108 in Germany (you will definitely break the 
record!!)your space would hold about 5000 people.
Our space was 70 by 40 meters, not exactly square, yours is 150 by 
70...very similar in shape...you do have to consider that the inner 
circles can be real perfect circles but as you add more circles they 
turn more and more into ovals...or you just add half circles at the long 
ends of the the room.
For the 2108 people we had 10 or 12 concentric circles (people sitting 
on small pillows...the firedepartment would not permit chairs unless 
they are bolted to the floor)...that made it real easy to create 
breakout spaces throughout the large room (marked by gas filled ballons 
that were attached to small bags filled with sand, the balloons bearing 
the breakout space number, we had 70 spaces...for the closing circle 
participants pitched in creating the circles again...
Seems that for 7,000 people you need a space about 1,5 the size you have 
now. Or, calculating for huge crowds, you might think of 1,5 square 
meters per person
wish you lots of work, which, if it is really work, is pure fun
Greetings from Berlin
mmp

Christine Whitney Sanchez wrote:
> Hi All,
>  
> I would appreciate your help in figuring out how many people we can fit into
> Open Space concentric circles in a room that is 500 feet by 216 feet.
> AND...how big a space would it take to accommodate 7,000 people in Open
> Space?
>  
> Thanks in advance for any help you might offer.
>  
>>>From clear and chilly Phoenix,
>  
> Christine
>  
> Christine Whitney Sanchez
> CWS - Collaborative Wisdom & Strategy
> 2717 E. Mountain Sky Avenue
> Phoenix, AZ  85048-8990
> 480.759.0262
>  <http://www.christinewhitneysanchez.com/> www.christinewhitneysanchez.com 
>  

Michael M Pannwitz, boscop eg
Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
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www.boscop.org   www.michaelmpannwitz.de


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Dear Bo
Last year I facilitated a OST process (in Sweden) with the purpose of
getting going with a new institute for health informatics, where multiple
interestgroups participated. 

We had a pre-planning meeting, one full day of ost, followed by half day for
actionplanning (2 weeks later), + follow up meeting. 

In the process both scientists, doctors, people from farmaceutical
companies, etc participated. And of course it worked well. My sponsor who is
a director of one of the main hospitals in Sweden has used OST at other
occasions too, even had training with Birgitt Williams back in 2000.

Let me know if you want more info, and I could also check if I may give you
the contact info from my sponsor - if that would be helpful.
Warm regards
Thomas Herrmann

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Ämne: Re: OS for research planning

> I imagine OST has been used in a lot of research, but am not sure
> what you mean by 'scientific research'.
> Do you mean positivist or something like methodical enquiry?
>

The task for the conference is to bring together bench scientists,
clinicians, patients and families to generate ideas for novel
collaborations and novel research projects that can (afterward) be
turned into proposals for funding under the National Institutes of
Health's Orphan Diseases Project.

I'm looking for examples in which OS has been used by scientists as
part of the work of doing science (not examples in which scientists
have examined OS).

The reason I want this is to demonstrate the utility to the scientists
who will choose OS as a method for this conference, and to the
scientists who will determine to fund this conference (or not) and to
the scientists who will be invited to attend. All of them are likely
to be more persuaded of the utility of OS if they see examples in
which their peers have successfully used OS, than by examples in
social justice, conflict, human development, etc.

Best,

Bo

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