angry feedback

Tue Apr 10 09:13:01 PDT 2007

Yes, the folks in Moscow made their decision. . . . and I have heard lots
and lots of conversation with open space facilitators from around the world
(yes, some of these people actually talk to me on the phone, like, love and
respect me) about that decision.

The folks in Moscow had every right to make the decision they made.

And I, over here in California, have a right to think what I think, to want
what I want, to say what I think and want, etc.

That's all I was doing.  Now that I have watched myself posted three
reactive letters to Yana's violation of my privacy, I see that I am being
very reactive this morning.  I don't care deeply about the decision to hold
OSonOS in Kiev this year. . . . but it really pisses me off that Yana stole
my words and posted them.  I don't care if the list knows what I think. . .
. but I feel a little raped by Yana.

On 4/10/07, TYASTO <tyasto at sapa.nsk.su> wrote:
>
>  Dear Yana and Ukraininan team,
>
> take it easy. A decision making procedure in Moscow was a long one and
> everybody could say what they wanted and vote as they wished.
> I wish you a success and lots of energy!
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Marina Tyasto
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Yana Demenko [mailto:yana at demenko.info]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:54 PM
> *To:* OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> *Subject:* angry feedback
>
> Dear OS Community,
>
> WOSonOS hosting team have got a very interesting feedback from Tree
> Fitzpatrick.
>
> I'm not going to comment it but I feel responsibility to share this mail
> with all of you.
>
> Whatever happens is the only thing that could have ...
>
>
> Best regards,
> Yana Demenko
>
> [e-mail] yana at demenko.info
> [post] p.o.box 4B, Kyiv-1, 01001, Ukraine
> [web] www.demenko.info
> [skype] yana_demenko
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>  *
> *
>  **
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Tree Fitzpatrick [mailto:therese.fitzpatrick at gmail.com<therese.fitzpatrick at gmail.com>]
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:21 AM
> *To:* GURT Resource Centre for NGO Development
> *Subject:* Re: Invitation to 15th Worldwide Open Space on Open Space
>
> I have absolutely no interest in attending the OSonOS in Kiev this year.
> I am writing to tell you why I am not interested. And I am writing to
> complain that you have sent me this invitation.  Where did you get my
> email?  You did not have my permission to use it.
>
> I was disappointed that people at OSonOS in Moscow hijacked this important
> international gathering of OS practitioners from around the world and
> insisted on taking the event to Kiev this year.  The OSonOS gathering
> belongs to practitioners around the world and it has norms and traditions
> that you folks refused to honor when you decided to 'steal' the event to
> Kiev this year.  A key tradition of OSonOS International has been to move
> around the world.
>
> I understand that one of your organizers was very aggressive in Moscow,
> insisting on forcing OSonOS to Kiev. This makes me angry and under no
> circumstances would I attend an event that was demanded like this:  I feel
> like coming would be tantamount to giving in to a child after he had a
> tantrum.  You folks in Kiev were free to steal the event. . . but you could
> never win my support of it.
>
> And, parenthetically, as it happens, Raffi did something similar at
> Halifax OSonOS in 2005.  The group was leaning towards having OSonOS 2006 in
> Scotland and Raffi stood up and said "I don't care what you people want,
> there is going to be an international OSonOS in Moscow this year" and the
> Halifax group gave in to Raffi.  I mention this because now I am wondering
> if the Slavic world is littered with bullies who think that imposing their
> will on people is good collaboration?
>
> I also wonder if whoever that guy was, it was someone from Kiev who was in
> Moscow at last year's conference, really gives a shit about the rest of the
> world of OS practitioners.  I wonder if this guy realizes that senior OS
> practitioners all over the world have heard about this behavior.
>
> I venture to guess that you are going to have a very low turnout at this
> event.  I suspect lots of people feel the way I do, that the conference was
> birthed in an atmosphere of coersion, which is NOT open space at all, is it?
>
> Please don't send me any more emails.  I have reported you to my email
> provider as spam.
>
>
> --
> Love rays,
> Tree Fitzpatrick
>
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Love rays,
Tree Fitzpatrick

http://thecultureoflove.blogspot.com/

. . . the great and incalculable grace of love, which says, with Augustine,
"I want you to be," without being able to give any particular reason for
such supreme and unsurpassable affirmation.  -- Hannah Arendt

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