Terrorised by Terror/ Fearful of (open) space

Wed Apr 4 09:07:46 PDT 2007

How interesting Harrison - just had a quick look at the origins of 
the word - apparantly derived from the Greek word 'agora' meaning 
'market place'....so it literally means 'fear of the market 
place'...and, would you believe, 'agoraphobics are not afraid of open 
spaces themselves, but of having panic attacks as a result of being 
in certain locations' (according to wikipedia: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agoraphobia,
and 'another misconception is that agoraphobia is a fear of "crowded 
spaces". Once again, an agoraphobic does not fear people: he or she 
rather fears an embarrassing/dangerous situation with no escape. Some 
people with agoraphobia are comfortable seeing visitors, but only in 
a defined space they feel in control of. Such people may live for 
years without leaving their homes, while happily seeing visitors and 
working, as long as they can stay within their safety zones. The 
safety zones can vary, from not being able to leave home, or not 
being able to make eye contact. If the person leaves their 'safety 
zone' they can have an anxiety attack.
Furthermore...."agoraphobia can be successfully treated in many cases 
through a very gradual process of 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//wiki/Graduated_exposure_therapy>graduated 
exposure therapy combined with 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//wiki/Cognitive_therapy>cognitive 
therapy and sometimes 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//wiki/Anti-anxiety>anti-anxiety or 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//wiki/Antidepressant>antidepressant medications."

So - what do I make of all that.....
agoraphobics are afraid of losing control of their self-constructed 
safety zones - and are susceptible to the onset of panic 
attacks.......entering an Open Space market place provides them with 
'graduated exposure therapy', through an embodied experience, coupled 
with cognitive awareness of the freedom to 'escape' from situations 
that might cause such anxieties...and voila - the cure!

I wonder what the Psych Professor will make of this...

Cheers
Brendan

At 05:35 AM 4/04/2007, you wrote:
>After all there is already a psychological name for it -- probably 
>even a diagnosis and
>treatment. Last time I checked it was called "Agoraphobia." Yep -- we're in
>the books as a clinical phenomenon. And maybe we even have the cure...???
>Whoever said this was a sane group of people?????

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"I wonder what the Psych Professor will make of this..."  I don't know
Brendan. But try him out and see if he is for real. And I think your =
take on
the subject is great. Who knows we may have a whole new genre of use for =
OS.
After all everybody did think we were a little nutty. And by the way I =
made
a video 17 years ago titled "Learning in Open Space" - Had great fun =
with
the Agora where we are told Socrates and the guys used to hang out.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Brendan McKeague [mailto:mckeague at iprimus.com.au]=20
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:57 AM
To: hhowen at verizon.net
Subject: Re: Terrorised by Terror/ Fearful of (open) space

=20

How interesting Harrison - just had a quick look at the origins of the =
word
- apparantly derived from the Greek word 'agora' meaning 'market
place'....so it literally means 'fear of the market place'...and, would =
you
believe, 'agoraphobics are not afraid of open spaces themselves, but of
having panic attacks as a result of being in certain locations' =
(according
to wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agoraphobia,=20
and 'another misconception is that agoraphobia is a fear of "crowded
spaces". Once again, an agoraphobic does not fear people: he or she =
rather
fears an embarrassing/dangerous situation with no escape. Some people =
with
agoraphobia are comfortable seeing visitors, but only in a defined space
they feel in control of. Such people may live for years without leaving
their homes, while happily seeing visitors and working, as long as they =
can
stay within their safety zones. The safety zones can vary, from not =
being
able to leave home, or not being able to make eye contact. If the person
leaves their 'safety zone' they can have an anxiety attack.
Furthermore...."agoraphobia can be successfully treated in many cases
through a very gradual process of graduated
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wiki/Graduated_exposure_therapy>  exposure
therapy combined with cognitive therapy
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wiki/Cognitive_therapy>  and sometimes
anti-anxiety <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wiki/Anti-anxiety>  or
antidepressant <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wiki/Antidepressant>
medications."

So - what do I make of all that.....
agoraphobics are afraid of losing control of their self-constructed =
safety
zones - and are susceptible to the onset of panic attacks.......entering =
an
Open Space market place provides them with 'graduated exposure therapy',
through an embodied experience, coupled with cognitive awareness of the
freedom to 'escape' from situations that might cause such =
anxieties...and
voila - the cure! =20

I wonder what the Psych Professor will make of this...

Cheers
Brendan=20

At 05:35 AM 4/04/2007, you wrote:

After all there is already a psychological name for it -- probably even =
a
diagnosis and
treatment. Last time I checked it was called "Agoraphobia." Yep -- we're =
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cure...???
Whoever said this was a sane group of people?????

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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Terrorised =
by Terror/
Fearful of (open) space</span></font></p>

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.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>How
interesting Harrison - just had a quick look at the origins of the word =
-
apparantly derived from the Greek word 'agora' meaning 'market =
place'....so it
literally means 'fear of the market place'...and, would you believe,
'agoraphobics are not afraid of open spaces themselves, but of having =
panic
attacks as a result of being in certain locations' (according to =
wikipedia: <a
href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agoraphobia" =
eudora=3Dautourl>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agoraphobia</a>,
<br>
and 'another misconception is that agoraphobia is a fear of =
"crowded
spaces". Once again, an agoraphobic does not fear people: he or she =
rather
fears an embarrassing/dangerous situation with no escape. Some people =
with
agoraphobia are comfortable seeing visitors, but only in a defined space =
they
feel in control of. Such people may live for years without leaving their =
homes,
while happily seeing visitors and working, as long as they can stay =
within
their safety zones. The safety zones can vary, from not being able to =
leave
home, or not being able to make eye contact. If the person leaves their =
'safety
zone' they can have an anxiety attack.<br>
Furthermore...."agoraphobia can be successfully treated in many =
cases
through a very gradual process of <a
href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wiki/Graduated_exposure_therapy">gra=
duated
exposure therapy</a> combined with <a
href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wiki/Cognitive_therapy">cognitive =
therapy</a>
and sometimes <a =
href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wiki/Anti-anxiety">anti-anxiety</a>
or <a =
href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wiki/Antidepressant">antidepressant<=
/a>
medications."<br>
<br>
So - what do I make of all that.....<br>
agoraphobics are afraid of losing control of their self-constructed =
safety
zones - and are susceptible to the onset of panic attacks.......entering =
an
Open Space market place provides them with 'graduated exposure therapy',
through an embodied experience, coupled with cognitive awareness of the =
freedom
to 'escape' from situations that might cause such anxieties...and voila =
- the
cure!  <br>
<br>
I wonder what the Psych Professor will make of this...<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
Brendan <br>
<br>
<br>
At </span></font>05:35 AM 4/04/2007, you wrote:</p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>After all there is already a psychological =
name for it
-- probably even a diagnosis and<br>
treatment. Last time I checked it was called "Agoraphobia." =
Yep --
we're in<br>
the books as a clinical phenomenon. And maybe we even have the =
cure...???<br>
Whoever said this was a sane group of people?????</span></font></p>

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Brendan--

Yes, I would like to see the Book of Proceedings and the Invitations,
off list if you like. And if you can without a lot of effort find out
what action came of it, that would be useful.

I liked the pictures from Bogata--wonderful shots! Even see Peggy in one
of them!

Erich!--

Did we meet at the Halifax OSonOS at the gathering the evening before?

Thanks for sending along that report--my German is from 9th and 10th
grade classes, and that was only 44 years ago or so, so I think I can
guess some of the words, about 1 in every 10 or 15 or so. The pictures
help! ;)

I have tried running your web page through an optical character
recognition program, then taking the results to some Web translation
services, but it is hard to understand fully what is there.

In any case, I would like to hear more from you about what happened and
what results there were after the event. Perhaps off list?

You are poetic, as Florian is, with your "darkening park." I like that.

My emphasis is on homeless persons--I have an opportunity to get
together some people who are served by a local free food pantry for the
poor, and I would like to find out if others have done this, and with
what results?

Avner--

Thanks for telling us this story. Any idea why the "very poor people"
did not take much action after the fact?

Say Hi to Tova for me. It was wonderful seeing her here at the Nexus for
Change conference a couple weeks ago.

Chris--

You are so wonderful to write up these events in such an open, sharing
fashion: you show the heart of the events. Thank you.

I like the idea of the World CafÃ© to ground the process and gather
volunteers to implement. What it looks like to me was that this gave
people a chance to look again at the tasks, and grow their enthusiasm
for doing the work. Respect and slow-down time for seeds to grow roots.
The process was the "halfway" stuff that allowed the real work (the
root-growing) to take off.

Were those the actual themes ("The Victoria Urban Development Agreement
Aboriginal Engagement Strategy")? I like the use of the word "strategy"
here....

Everyone--

Thanks for contributing. And thanks for waiting for me to get back to
you. This is a very busy time of year for me, and still so for at least
the next 2 weeks. Thanks!

			:- Doug. Germann

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