OS for People living with Aids

[Harrison Owen]

Re: OSLIST Digest - 4 Sep 2006 (#2006-233)The resident expert is Lisa Heft -- who has done all sorts of things with folks with AIDS. She will be with us here in Maine for OSONOS, I believe, so may not see this posting, but I will bring it to her attention.

Harrison


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Catherine Pfaehler 
  To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU 
  Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 5:58 PM
  Subject: OS for People living with Aids


  Dear Ralph, I love your story about participants passing on the essentials to late-comers in 10 seconds. It has a very relaxing effect on me. J

   

  I'm about to open space for Swiss People living with AIDS (Oct. 20 - 22), and very much looking forward to this week-end. A great preparation group profits of our experience in April (OS entitled "Healthily and happily gay"). We will be at the same gorgeous place above Lake Neuchâtel, hosted by a very dedicated crew in the YMCA-Center of Vaumarcus. The sponsor is again the Swiss Federal Office for Public Health, section AIDS. More on www.hivpositive.ch (in German and French).

   

  Have any of you worked with People living with AIDS and can give me advice on things that might be of importance and that we might not think of automatically?

   

  Love, Catherine

   

  Catherine Pfaehler Senn

  Open Space Begleitung & Coaching

  Kellersriedweg 8

  CH - 2503 Biel

  +41-(0)32 - 365 68 41

  c.pfaehler at bluewin.ch

  www.open-space-konferenz.ch

   


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  Von: Ralph Copleman [mailto:rcopleman at comcast.net] 
  Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. September 2006 15:30
  Betreff: Re: OSLIST Digest - 4 Sep 2006 (#2006-233)

   

  On 9/5/06 2:00 AM, "OSLIST automatic digest system" <LISTSERV at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU> wrote:

  My real fear is that all the students won't get it. I desperately want to
  let go and let it happen, and I'm worried about what will happen when I do. 


  Joanna, other newbies, virgins, and anyone else...

  How easy is it for students (or anyone else) to "get" open space?

  On occasions, when someone has arrived late for an OS meeting I'm facilitating, I've often seen the following.  The person in question wants to get into the stream of things, so s/he usually seeks out someone s/he knows.  Then follows an extremely brief exchange that usually includes a little pointing toward the relevant wall, a nod or two, and the two move off in different directions, with the latecomer heading toward that wall.

  I have taken all that time to provide as efficient and brief an opening as I know how, and then I see the whole thing delivered in about ten seconds to a complete newcomer.

  People get it, I think in part, because to participate in open space, there's fundamentally nothing new they have to learn.  They join some conversations, listen, speak from time to time, move around, eat something, etc.  If we insist people "get it" on some deeper level that's unnecessary for them to give what they came to contribute or learn what they came to learn, then we may be stressing ourselves uselessly.

  If less is more for us, it needs to be so, in our minds, for participants as well.

  So not only will they get it, Joanna, they already do!

  Ralph Copleman 

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