Simultaneous translation at 5-language Open Space event [long]
Phelim McDermott
phelim at mac.com
Sat Dec 16 02:00:49 PST 2006
Hi there Lisa,
If I had to do an open space for people with five different languages
as a performer i would have no hesitation now i know the format to do
the introduction in a language no one understands Gibberish!
Over the years training actors to use Gibberish IE made up sound
language I have been amazed by what actually gets communicated by the
voice and the body. Indeed after practice and clear feedback about
what people get good gibberish speakers can communicate virtually
anything in nonsense language. (except perhaps trade names). For
further guidance check out Viola Spolins improvisation for the theatre.
I can well understand that seems too far out for someone not used to
that but I WOULD recommend actually trying a rehearsal of the intro
IN GIBBERISH without anyone there to discover which bits of the
process are being communicated not by the words but by other means to
reassure you people will get it in whatever language you are speaking.
Phelim
On 15 Dec 2006, at 21:29, Wendy Farmer-O'Neil wrote:
> Hi Lisa,
>
>
>
> Just some initial thoughts…
>
> Once you hit five language groups you have gone from complicated to
> complex! No wonder your super brain is fried! A complex challenge
> requires a complex response: so why not Open Space for it? Would it
> be possible to convene a small OS (or online) with representatives
> from each of the groups both literate and non-literate, to create
> the action plan for providing accessibility support? I have had
> recent conversations with both Brian B. and a GCP colleague,
> Marquis Bureau, who have wrestled with some of these issues. One
> of the insights we uncovered was that these groups have ways of
> communicating and functioning that are unknown to us and that we
> need to access their expertise in oral/non-literate and minority
> language culture.
>
>
>
> Cheers from another rainy coastland,
>
> Wendy
>
>
>
> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Lisa Heft
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 8:12 AM
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject: Simultaneous translation at 5-language Open Space event
> [long]
>
>
>
> Hello, dear colleagues –
>
>
>
> I am facilitating an event which will be in 5 languages.
>
>
>
> It is a conference for immigrant farmers and the people who provide
> services, support, advocacy, education and funding for them.
>
>
>
> The languages spoken will be English, Spanish, Hmong, Lao, and Maay
> Maay (Somali Bantu language).
>
>
>
> I have indeed facilitated Open Space where many more than 5
> languages were spoken – and while there may sometimes have been a
> translator on headset for one or two main language groups other
> than English (my own language), others in the group with other
> language needs simply sat with friends from their countries and
> translation was handled casually as folks sat together grouped by
> language in the big opening circle. Signs for principles, law,
> theme and so on were of course in those several languages. And in
> the discussion sessions folks helped each other translate, no
> matter what was the language. I have had some clients provide
> translators to walk around and offer help during the discussion
> sessions – and though these folks are greatly appreciated they are
> often smilingly waved away because the participants have self-
> organized to take care of each other. Still, I think it is an
> important support (and message of dedication to inclusion and
> access) for a client to provide these roaming translators, if they
> have capacity to do so. And some discussion groups do indeed use
> them.
>
>
>
> Also, in these events, the ‘main’ language, the language of the
> conference, was in English, or Spanish, or some other main
> language. What I mean is that most participants were bilingual -
> could speak both their home language and the main language of the
> conference in whatever country it was in.
>
>
>
> In this upcoming event, however, there will be about 5 main
> languages spoken and many participants in each of those language
> groups. And there will be a large percentage of monolingual
> people (only speak their own language).
>
>
>
> I think technology (headsets and simultaneous translators) can help
> in this situation, and this client has that capability. To have 4
> people walk the circle with me (which I have done before with 1 or
> 2 people) and repeat my words in other languages (and discussion
> session convenor’s words when they announce their session topics)
> would take 4 times as long. It is doable, but hard on the energy
> for listeners. Also: to create written topic signs – these might
> be in any of the 5 languages – how to help all participants know
> all possible sessions they could go to?
>
>
>
> It sounds quite complicated. Or maybe I just have ‘Fried Brain
> Syndrome’ and I’m just not seeing the simple solutions here…
>
>
>
> I would love to hear your experiences and recommendations for
> translation during the event. This client has funding and
> capability for various solutions – if you can help me think this
> out and add what you have done that has worked for you I would
> greatly appreciate it.
>
>
>
> We have:
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>
>
> ___________________________________
>
>
>
> Activity – Plenary – welcome, introduction of principles-law-
> process (full group – 250 people)
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> What’s Happening
>
> Lisa speaks English – so, I think, may the hosts
>
>
>
> Solution
> Everyone on headset, 4 translators translate Lisa’s words to their
> respective-language participants. (By the way, when they register,
> participants are asked to identify their language needs – many of
> them have NGO representatives who are helping them register.)
>
> Other ideas?
>
> ___________________________________
>
>
>
> Activity -- Announcing topics and making those topic signs
>
>
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> What’s Happening
>
> Convenors would speak in any of their 5 home languages to announce
> their topics
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>
>
> Solution
> (Question: we are all on headsets and I understand how on our
> headsets is one translator – which is who we listened to when just
> Lisa was speaking – what to do when we each must switch to then
> hearing a translation *to* our own language *from* any one of 4
> other languages? One option is the lower-tech version where 5
> translators are at microphones and the convenor’s session title is
> repeated 4 times)
>
>
>
> Another issue: convenors may not all be able to read and write.
> Over 50 or 60% in this conference will be able to read. Shall we
> have all session convenors come up to a table with 5 translators
> sitting at it, tell their topic and have the translators write the
> languages on a flip-chart page as the one topic sign? And when
> their sign is done the convenor walks with it into the center to
> announce her/his topic, and other translators on headset (or in
> person at microphones) translate that topic title verbally as they
> announce it? And: how will non-readers know what each session’s
> set of topics is? I could adjust the design – we could do one
> round of announcing / sessions at a time, so people could hear just
> one set of sessions announced, then break out and go to those
> sessions, then reconvene in full circle as the next set of sessions
> is announced, and so on. There are probably 20 sessions possible
> at a time. Can people retain this sort of audio memory?
>
>
>
> See how complicated I am making it? Or am I solving the problem?
> Other ideas?
>
> ___________________________________
>
>
>
> Activity -- Discussion sessions (probably 20 discussion areas)
>
>
>
> What’s Happening
>
> In past events some of my clients have provided roaming
> translators. Some groups might of course meet *by* language. So
> maybe the other mixed-language groups would just signal roving
> translators’ help for whatever language they don’t have the
> capability to casually translate into. But maybe they would need
> to ask for several translators. What are your ideas and
> experiences? Remember – the translators may only know their own
> language + English.
>
>
>
> Solution
> By the way, perhaps every person registering could receive colors
> for their name badge indicating the languages they speak. The
> translators could also have colors on their badges. In this way the
> full group could see how their language needs could be met by the
> people sitting around them in addition to the roaming translators.
> Other ideas?
>
> Other ideas?
>
> ___________________________________
>
>
>
> Activity -- Documentation of discussions
>
>
>
> What’s Happening
>
> Not all of these participants read and write.
>
>
> Solution
> One idea is to post a scribe who ‘lives’ at each discussion area
> and sits with a laptop or flip-chart. This person will need
> translation, too, perhaps, if the languages spoken in their little
> groups is not theirs. And I am guessing it would be easiest for
> this client if the scribe wrote in English (the client could have
> the Book of Proceedings translated post-event into participant
> languages). I just choose English as one language (the client’s
> language and that of about 50% of the mono- and bilingual
> participants). I am guessing that it would be even better for this
> scribe to be bilingual English-Spanish (thus handling 2 out of the
> 5 languages, Spanish perhaps being the next largest language group
> at this event). Having a scribe at each discussion area might
> still mean having a Newsroom – scribes could have some time at the
> end of each day to input and finalize their session notes.
> Documentation may also include graphic recording, digital photos
> (later shared electronically and in hard-copy) and other
> documentation methods for non-readers.
>
> Other ideas?
>
> ___________________________________
>
>
>
> Activity -- Evening event
>
>
>
> What’s Happening
>
> This will perhaps be musicians of a few different cultures/
> countries and 3 farmers telling their experiences through story.
> The 3 farmers will be speaking each a different language.
>
>
>
> Solution
> If the musicians sing something, the text could be pre-translated
> for those who read. But / and I somehow feel that art can be
> *felt*, as well. And I would like the graphic recorders to be
> creating documentation during this activity, as well. I am
> guessing we would once again all be on headsets to hear the stories
> in our own languages. Perhaps we should include ear massages,
> too! ;o)
>
> Other ideas?
>
> ___________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
> Please feel free to tell me if and where I am making this much more
> complicated than it needs to be. However, the client and I would
> love to provide more support to individuals who are non-English
> speakers as a way to equalize their access and inclusion in this
> event.
>
>
>
> Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences,
>
>
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
> ___________________________
>
> L i s a H e f t
>
> Consultant, Facilitator, Educator
>
> O p e n i n g S p a c e
>
> lisaheft at openingspace.net
>
> www.openingspace.net
>
>
>
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