which to give up - morning or evening news?

[Diana Larsen]

Ted,

I feel your pain. After having wrestled with the jellyfish of  
planning an OS within a traditional conference a few times now, I'm  
ready to cry "uncle!" I think you're doing really well to get any  
time for evening news _or_ morning announcements. I had hold my  
ground to have opening and closing times set aside (and, in one case,  
space as well).

When I asked the list about opening space within a traditional  
conference, Harrison said he doesn't do it. I'd been recruited, so I  
tried to make it work. Now I'm converted to his position. ;-) Open  
Space only conferences for me.

And, since it the situation you've got...If you want participants to  
show up for the closing OS within a traditional conference, I suggest  
sticking to the evening news slot. Gets them in the habit of ending  
the day in OS, and gives a greater chance they'll show up for closing.

Good Luck!
Diana

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On Dec 14, 2006, at 2:35 PM, Ted Ernst wrote:

> not sure this is possible - since we're interfacing with a  
> traditional conference, I can't just set my own arbitrary times  
> that don't respect the framework - I tried that in August and there  
> were just too many distractions.  We did morning news during a  
> coffee break after a keynote and people were too busy with coffee  
> to come.  The closing was during another coffee break and people  
> wanted to get good seats for the keynote that would follow.  Of  
> course I'll squeeze in if I have to, but can't shave lunch and  
> expect anyone will pay any attention :-)
>
> On 12/14/06, Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com> wrote: ted,  
> surely you could do morn news as usual, shave lunch and the last
> session by 15 mins each to scare up an evening 30 mins.  or find just
> 15 for the evening news time and let it naturally claim a bit more, on
> the strength of its own momentum at the time?  mh
>
>
>
> On 12/14/06, Ted Ernst <ted at chicagohumanist.org > wrote:
> > 3 day traditional conference (WikiSym) with dedicated time for  
> open space
> > opening first day and evening news on days 1, 2 and 3 (3rd day  
> we'll do a
> > closing instead).  The initial draft schedule doesn't have  
> morning news on
> > days 2 or 3.  If I cannot get those put in the schedule, would  
> you recommend
> > swapping the day 1 and 2 evening newses for day 2 and 3 morning  
> news or
> > leave it as is?  I'm inclinded to think morning news is more  
> important then
> > evening news given the choice.  I hate having the choice, and  
> maybe I don't
> > have the choice, but would like opinions in any event.  Thanks!
> >
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