OSLIST Digest - 23 Aug 2006 (#2006-220)

[Peggy Holman]

Re: OSLIST Digest - 23 Aug 2006 (#2006-220)Hi Ralph,

Thanks so much for your perspective on this.  It is both personally affirming and a very valuable mirror for larger work.

I sure hear you on forcing intimacy!  And there is something very rich about going both deep and broad collectively.  I think we were well served by holding that as an intention without it being an imposition or expectation.

I'm looking forward to sharing what I'm learning about the evolutionary stuff through the salons, reading, and my own experiences.   A couple shorts - OS is the most elegant way I know to create the conditions for emergence in social systems.  It took me a while to figure out what the relationship is between emergence and evolution.  The way I've come to look at it is that emergence is the growing edge or the learning edge of evolution; it's the place where the leaps in novelty occur.

More soon,
Peggy
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  From: Ralph Copleman 
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  Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [OSLIST] OSLIST Digest - 23 Aug 2006 (#2006-220)


  Peggy and all,

  Quite a story.  My hat is off to you for work very, very well done.

  A few personal reactions...

  ? The person who said your bell-ringing was unnecessary was cruel and rude.  I can find no excuse for such poor behavior.  He owes you an apology.  You owe him nothing.  Just because you're a facilitator and serving the community does not give anyone the right to pick on you in public.

  ? Folks who make actual requests for intimacy as an outcome of a meeting may have issues about their own inability to create and/or participate in intimate relationships.  Breadth from depth is a good concept, but I don't want "depth" prescribed or forced on me by a few folks who think they know what's important for everyone.  As an introvert, I would hesitate to show up at any gathering where the someone has deliberately set things up in this way.  I certainly wouldn't want them applying this concept as an unconscious way of dealing with their own needs.

  ? I look forward to whatever further contributions you care to make about the evolutionary/cosmological aspects of that meeting.  I'm something of a devotee of the "new story".  I see the work I do in open space as the format and dynamics most closely resembling the flaring forth and evolutional history of existence and life.

  Good going, Peg.  Congratulations.

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