Working with visual artists at an Open Space

Tue Aug 22 02:40:43 PDT 2006

Dear Josef and all,

I have similar questions, suspicions and discussions that you raised. Yet, i also feel that we are in a process of combining all these :
feelings, senses, creativity, service, work, business, make a living, joy, business and responsibility. 

Regards,
Funda
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  From: joralt 
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  Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 12:24 PM
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  Hi Reinhard and all

  Your question describes very accurately my feelings of deep unease when it comes to how people of many "open space" institutes (such as Learning Organizations or Chaordic Alliance, for example) treat artists and their invaluable contributions all the while using the concept of artistic behavior to describe the new and innovative ways of doing business and how the new leadership in all walks of life should learn from jazz musicians, designers and architects. Yet, when you check how many artists are actually comprising the active leading teams of all those organizations all you will find is more of the same business and all old school management people who have suddenly realized how profitable is to sell their Ferrari after you moved your cheese out of the artists way. For most of those artists opening space is a daily and routine activity, done mostly with the deep visceral knowledge of how to balance content and form in the best possible way within a context of a given composition. And this is precisely because this knowledge is not based on mental conception there is such a deep distrust of any input coming from feelings and the senses, so I am not surprised a bit to hear that we are the addendum that one should be careful about as we might bring some true innovation and insights and tip the balance against the dominance of the ruling literary and word oriented elite.

  All the best

  Josef 

  Josef Ralt

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  Hi Chris, and all you others,

  I was hoping that your question would open a dialog I was seeking since years. Since years I am on this OS list, feeling that you and me are seeking for the same treasure in and on similar ways.

  But then I get Harrison's "One caution about visual artists and other such addendum" and ask me, and ask you: Are you, like me, an addendum to the process of self organizing people, helping them a bit as we can with our tools, or are you the high priests and I am the addendum?

  Mit freundlichen Grüßen

  best regards

  Reinhard

  VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE

  Kuchenmüller & Stifel

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  www.visuelle-protokolle.de

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  Von: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] Im Auftrag von Chris Corrigan
  Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. August 2006 18:51
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  Betreff: Working with visual artists at an Open Space

  Hi mates:

  I have an opportunity coming up in the fall to work with a visual artist for an Open Space I am doing.  The clients wants us to work together and I'm excited by the possibility, but haven't ever done that before.  

  So what kind of good stories do you have of working with visual artists (and visual art as a modality) in Open Space.

  Daniel?  Reinhardt?  Is Nancy Margulis around?  Others?

  Chris

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