panflu - what next? - open space

Lucas Gonzalez lgs0a at yahoo.es
Tue Oct 18 02:43:03 PDT 2005


Cheryl

Surprising how stuffed up mailboxes can get - sorry.

Thank you for sharing this.  Could you update us on reactions,
acomplishments etc?

Lucas

 --- Cheryl Honey <wecare at familynetwork.org> escribió:

> Lucas:
> 
> I appreciate your enthusiasm and your depth of understanding of the
> potential impact the Avian Flu will have on society. I concur with
> your call
> to action and I am instigating preparedness and response efforts at
> the
> grass roots using OS to combat and raise awareness of the social and
> economic impacts as well as educate public on steps to prepare and
> how to
> respond to an outbreak of the Avian Flu.
> 
> Keep up your good works on behalf of humanity.
> 
> Cheryl Honey, C.P.P.
> Community Weaver
> Family Support Network
> 206.240.2241
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lucas Gonzalez" <lgs0a at yahoo.es>
> To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 3:09 AM
> Subject: Re: panflu - what next? - open space
> 
> 
> > Funda (and all),
> >
> > I think I missed your message due to dates - sorry.
> >
> > The issue is *not* birds.  Poultry and farmers are important, but
> one
> > does have to select priorities and we all do that.
> >
> > The issue IS preparation for a pandemic (="global epidemic", more
> or
> > less simultaneous and lasting all in all about 6-12 months, with
> > possibly some other waves after that) IN HUMANS.  If or when that
> > happens, no-one will care about birds because we will be much more
> > likely to get flu the usual way: through humans.  And it would be a
> new
> > flu, more infectious and - sorry if this doesn't sound positive -
> > deadly and disruptive.
> >
> > That's the worst case scenario.  There's no need to prepare for the
> > best.
> >
> > That preparation has to be local because one of the effects of a
> > pandemic, or so it is feared, would be a reduction in travelling,
> both
> > global and local.  For a number of weeks in each place, people
> might be
> > afraid, with reason, to go shopping.  In each place, we'd probably
> > receive the impact of the epidemic in other places: you want
> tourists
> > or food or car pieces from here?  Sorry, we're in a mess!
> >
> > It's difficult to imagine and so I hope I'm wrong.  Please share
> your
> > reasons for NOT fearing this!
> >
> > Harrison wrote a story about how to organise meals for 8 million
> people
> > (possibly thinking about New York City a number of years ago?). 
> The
> > answer to "how do we organise that" was self-organisation.
> >
> > How do we facilitate self-organisation for such a thing as a
> pandemic
> > IN HUMANS that may or may not come, but which calls for
> preparedness?
> >
> > Anyone of us can look for the preparedness plan (or lack of it) in
> each
> > country where we happen to live, at
> >
> http://www.fluwikie.com/index.php?n=Geographic.WorldRegionalServices
> >
> > And still, it's feared that what govs do won't matter all that much
> in
> > the end.  Or even be part of the problem in a few places?
> >
> > Lucas
> >
> >  --- Funda Oral <fundaoral at ttnet.net.tr> escribió:
> >
> > > Lucas, i heard on TV the other day. This came to Turkey. Many
> birds
> > > have
> > > been killed
> > > for this reason at Balikesir ( this city is 4 hrs far from
> istanbul)
> > >
> > > I personally don't have time to deal with this issue although i
> don't
> > > deny
> > > its importance.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Funda
> > >
> > >  ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Lucas Gonzalez" <lgs0a at yahoo.es>
> > > To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 12:45 PM
> > > Subject: panflu - what next? - open space
> > >
> > >
> > > > http://www.fluwikie.com/index.php?n=Main.TourLevelI  ... short,
> > > clear.
> > > > http://www.psandman.com/col/panflu3.htm  ... long, you'll all
> like
> > > it.
> > > >
> > > > There may not be action within the oslist, but I do want to
> share
> > > with
> > > > you the above links so whoever is interested may stir things up
> > > > locally.
> > > >
> > > > Pass it on, too, if you're so inclined.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Lucas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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