WE who shudder: Deep Democracy * Open Space * Other systemic methods

Chris Macrae wcbn007 at easynet.co.uk
Thu Nov 3 05:22:20 PST 2005


Jeff thanks: I’ll search the archives – also 

1 I am just learning that OSpace people should shudder where DD people don’t 
and vice versa. This could be natural if both are offering systemic methods 
that may be contained or containing of each other at different stages of the 
transformation. It would seem that open space is about freeing the communal 
challenge so it promotes everyone’s freedom to project and collaboratively 
explore together. Conversely DD is assuming there will still be a constitution 
to redraft whether this is of inspiration or of democracy. It is DD’s intent 
to both agree the constitutional consensus and to include the minimums that 
those who do not agree with the majority need to be able to work within the 
constitution rather than later terrorise its split.

2 I have started a survey which asks if your city or profession loves one 
other systemic method (which therefore needs interfacing with open space) what 
is it and what do the two interfacing facilitators need to reciprocally 
shudder through.
Its here at http://collaborationcity.blogspot.com though I would love it to be 
re-edited and opened up anywhere that co-shuddering may be a systematically 
useful to explore

Chris Macrae   wcbn007 at easynet.co.uk


Quoting Jeff Aitken <tzimtzum at earthlink.net>:

 Chris,
 
 You may be interested in some OSLIST conversations long ago (and some only a
 few years ago) regarding the Mindell's work vis-a-vis OST.
 
 I apologize that did not do my homework and check out your link, but I assume
 "deep democracy" is in the Mindell lineage, as their excellent books Sitting
 in the Fire and others do use this term.
 
 I remember Harrison as usual shuddering at the sheer amount of work that
 Mindell does during an event. (grin)
 
 Cheers,
 
 Jeff Aitken
 Petaluma river valley,
 San Francisco Bay area
 707-774-1512

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