SV: AI and Solution focused management?
Eva P Svensson
eva at epshumaninvest.se
Tue May 31 06:11:37 PDT 2005
Kate and Peggy!
Thanks for your responds, when I am thinking a bit more - the words solution
focused has a both positive and bitter taste. Focus only on the solution can
get the consequences that we skip the process and forget about the questions
that make us reflect upon the current situation. Even though I don’t think
that it is meant like a “quick fix method” I have a feeling that some
clients are expecting that
All the best from a rainy Onsala
:o)
Eva
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Skickat: den 29 maj 2005 04:53
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Ämne: Re: AI and Solution focused management?
Eva,
The responses below are from a similar question on the AI listserv.
Peggy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Wolinski" <swolinski at mn.rr.com>
To: "'Punya Upadhyaya, Ph.D.'" <punya at laplaza.org>; "'Fritz Walter
Organisationsberatung'" <walter.berlin at snafu.de>;
<ailist at lists.business.utah.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:54 PM
Subject: RE: [Ailist] history of ai or family tree required
> The "miracle question" that is often used, to great effect, with AI, is
> directly taken from Solution Focused Therapy. I believe it was Steve de
> Shazer and Kim Insoo Berg who invented it. I was trained by Berg as a
> family therapist and the miracle question was always a wonderful
> therapeutic option to use. I find that it is one of the questions in AI
> protocols that get the biggest "wow" response from clients. In the
> early days the brief family therapy "gurus" were always on the look for
> the next miracle question or big impact therapeutic intervention. They
> came up with a couple more -- but the miracle question was definitely
> the most elegant and effective.
>
> The postmodern/brief family therapists in many regards transformed the
> field of psychotherapy. There is still a ton to be taken from them in
> terms of theory and technique. I think it was Jay Haley who about 20
> years ago stated that "resistance is dead". He was challenging
> therapists to "reframe" what they saw as clients being resistant as,
> instead, clients trying to tell therapists how to better help them.
> Haley didn't think there was such a thing as a resistant client -- just
> impatient therapists! I think that the OD field would benefit immensely
> from adopting a similar conception of clients. Haley and his wife, Cloe
> Madanes, were some of the second generation family systems people who
> greatly influenced the solution focused/oriented/brief therapy
> originators. Haley helped originate and popularize the "reframing"
> technique.
>
> A seminal influence on all of these folks is Milton Erickson. I see
> Gregory Bateson and the MRI group as the "Freud" figure to family
> systems and Milton Erickson is equivalent to Karl Jung. Milton was in
> large part responsible for such wonderful ideas such as "prescribing the
> resistance" and "paradoxical interventions". He is also largely
> credited with the concepts and insights that launched neurolinguistic
> programming (NLP) which made a big splash in the OD field a dozen years
> or so ago.
>
> I know that some of the therapists who are skilled in the postmodern
> approaches feel a certain degree of skepticism, or even disdain, for AI.
> What I gather from their comments is that they see is as too simple and
> formulaic to be credible. I have gone from being a family systems
> trained, postmodern therapist to a postmodern OD consultant, and active
> user and believer in AI. My opinion is that individual, marriage, and
> family therapy is a great deal more difficult than OD work. The work is
> harder, the pay is way worse, and the positive outcomes much more
> incremental. The reason I say this is that I think it is hard for these
> therapists see the incredible outcomes that AI begets. AI often results
> in big, positive, systemic shifts with huge groups of people. We are
> talking about global social change. I think it must be hard to hear
> about how great AI is -- when they have been using similar techniques
> for 20 years. And that it is hard to hear about how great AI when they
> are having to convince an insurance company to cover three sessions (at
> $50 an hour) that are used to keep a 14 year old trauma survivor from
> committing suicide.
>
> Steve Wolinski, MS, LP, LMFT
> Taos/Tilburg Doctoral Program
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ailist-bounces at lists.business.utah.edu
> [mailto:ailist-bounces at lists.business.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Punya
> Upadhyaya, Ph.D.
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:49 AM
> To: Fritz Walter Organisationsberatung; ailist at lists.business.utah.edu
> Subject: Re: [Ailist] history of ai or family tree required
>
> Dear Fritz,
>
> There are several roots for the formation of AI, but Solution Focused
> therapy is not one. It is a kindred idea, just like Asset Based
> Community
> Development is a kindred idea in the development world.
>
> The formal intellectual source is generally 'Social Constructionist'
> theory,
> which begins with Vico a few hundred years ago, goes through some
> post-Marxist analysis, e.g. Berger and Luckman, and the immediate idea
> that
> prompts David and Suresh and their colleagues at Case is Ken Gergen's
> notion
> of 'generative theory'.
>
> A related intellectual issue is the general problem of action research
> which
> was the frame for much of the early work published on AI. It is not a
> psychological venture, as much as it is a social change process. The
> development of the theory was in a 'grounded' mode (e.g. Glaser and
> Strauss)
> and is really built on the experience of a team at Case Western.
>
> Last, when you read the papers, there is an obvious theological
> influence,
> notably Gabriel Marcel, and other tropes. Some of this is common to all
> EuroAmerican social science, but some of this is specifically notable
> for
> AI. Empirically, it has usually done very well in Church related
> organizations, which 'get' it quickly.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Punya
>
>
> Punya Upadhyaya, Ph.D.
> Cell: (505) 770-7718
> punya at laplaza.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Eva P Svensson <eva at epshumaninvest.se>
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: AI and Solution focused management?
Date: Sat, May 28, 2005, 4:26 AM
Hello dear list members!
Sometimes I have heard here in Sweden of Lösningsfokuserat arbetssätt -
Solutions focused management I believe is the English term. And today
Istumbled over a webpage and I have been searching around there for a bit.
It says that the method was invented or described by Steve de Shazer och
Insoo Kim Berg from Brief Family Therapy Centre, Milwaukee, USA. And as I
understand its used for example in short time therapy but also in
groups/companies to create better work environment, improve teamwork and
results.
My question is if anyone of you know what the difference is between a
Solution focused approach and Appreciative inquiry? Both talk about focus on
whats working, that the answer is within us
All the best from a soon to be summer weather and the west coast of Sweden
Eva
Bästa hälsningar
Eva P Svensson
...................................................................
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