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when I am thinking a bit more - the words solution focused has a both positive
and bitter taste. Focus only on the solution can get the consequences that we skip
the process and forget about the questions that make us reflect upon the
current situation. Even though I don’t think that it is meant like a “quick
fix method” I have a feeling that some clients are expecting that…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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12.0pt'>From: "Steve Wolinski" <<a
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>To: "'Punya Upadhyaya, Ph.D.'" <<a
href="mailto:punya@laplaza.org">punya@laplaza.org</a>>; "'Fritz Walter
Organisationsberatung'" <<a href="mailto:walter.berlin@snafu.de">walter.berlin@snafu.de</a>>;
<<a href="mailto:ailist@lists.business.utah.edu">ailist@lists.business.utah.edu</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:54 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>Subject: RE: [Ailist] history of ai or family tree required<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>> The "miracle question" that is often used, to great
effect, with AI, is<br>
> directly taken from Solution Focused Therapy. I believe it was Steve
de<br>
> Shazer and Kim Insoo Berg who invented it. I was trained by Berg as
a<br>
> family therapist and the miracle question was always a wonderful<br>
> therapeutic option to use. I find that it is one of the questions in
AI<br>
> protocols that get the biggest "wow" response from
clients. In the<br>
> early days the brief family therapy "gurus" were always on the
look for<br>
> the next miracle question or big impact therapeutic intervention.
They<br>
> came up with a couple more -- but the miracle question was definitely<br>
> the most elegant and effective. <br>
> <br>
> The postmodern/brief family therapists in many regards transformed the<br>
> field of psychotherapy. There is still a ton to be taken from them
in<br>
> terms of theory and technique. I think it was Jay Haley who about 20<br>
> years ago stated that "resistance is dead". He was
challenging<br>
> therapists to "reframe" what they saw as clients being resistant
as,<br>
> instead, clients trying to tell therapists how to better help them.<br>
> Haley didn't think there was such a thing as a resistant client -- just<br>
> impatient therapists! I think that the OD field would benefit
immensely<br>
> from adopting a similar conception of clients. Haley and his wife,
Cloe<br>
> Madanes, were some of the second generation family systems people who<br>
> greatly influenced the solution focused/oriented/brief therapy<br>
> originators. Haley helped originate and popularize the
"reframing"<br>
> technique. <br>
> <br>
> A seminal influence on all of these folks is Milton Erickson. I see<br>
> Gregory Bateson and the MRI group as the "Freud" figure to
family<br>
> systems and Milton Erickson is equivalent to Karl Jung. Milton was
in<br>
> large part responsible for such wonderful ideas such as "prescribing
the<br>
> resistance" and "paradoxical interventions". He is
also largely<br>
> credited with the concepts and insights that launched neurolinguistic<br>
> programming (NLP) which made a big splash in the OD field a dozen years<br>
> or so ago.<br>
> <br>
> I know that some of the therapists who are skilled in the postmodern<br>
> approaches feel a certain degree of skepticism, or even disdain, for AI.<br>
> What I gather from their comments is that they see is as too simple and<br>
> formulaic to be credible. I have gone from being a family systems<br>
> trained, postmodern therapist to a postmodern OD consultant, and active<br>
> user and believer in AI. My opinion is that individual, marriage,
and<br>
> family therapy is a great deal more difficult than OD work. The work
is<br>
> harder, the pay is way worse, and the positive outcomes much more<br>
> incremental. The reason I say this is that I think it is hard for
these<br>
> therapists see the incredible outcomes that AI begets. AI often
results<br>
> in big, positive, systemic shifts with huge groups of people. We are<br>
> talking about global social change. I think it must be hard to hear<br>
> about how great AI is -- when they have been using similar techniques<br>
> for 20 years. And that it is hard to hear about how great AI when
they<br>
> are having to convince an insurance company to cover three sessions (at<br>
> $50 an hour) that are used to keep a 14 year old trauma survivor from<br>
> committing suicide. <br>
> <br>
> Steve Wolinski, MS, LP, LMFT<br>
> Taos/Tilburg Doctoral Program<br>
>
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> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:ailist-bounces@lists.business.utah.edu">ailist-bounces@lists.business.utah.edu</a><br>
> [mailto:ailist-bounces@lists.business.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Punya<br>
> Upadhyaya, Ph.D.<br>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:49 AM<br>
> To: Fritz Walter Organisationsberatung; <a
href="mailto:ailist@lists.business.utah.edu">ailist@lists.business.utah.edu</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Ailist] history of ai or family tree required<br>
> <br>
> Dear Fritz,<br>
> <br>
> There are several roots for the formation of AI, but Solution Focused<br>
> therapy is not one. It is a kindred idea, just like Asset Based<br>
> Community<br>
> Development is a kindred idea in the development world.<br>
> <br>
> The formal intellectual source is generally 'Social Constructionist'<br>
> theory,<br>
> which begins with Vico a few hundred years ago, goes through some<br>
> post-Marxist analysis, e.g. Berger and Luckman, and the immediate idea<br>
> that<br>
> prompts David and Suresh and their colleagues at Case is Ken Gergen's<br>
> notion<br>
> of 'generative theory'.<br>
> <br>
> A related intellectual issue is the general problem of action research<br>
> which<br>
> was the frame for much of the early work published on AI. It is not a<br>
> psychological venture, as much as it is a social change process. The<br>
> development of the theory was in a 'grounded' mode (e.g. Glaser and<br>
> Strauss)<br>
> and is really built on the experience of a team at Case Western.<br>
> <br>
> Last, when you read the papers, there is an obvious theological<br>
> influence,<br>
> notably Gabriel Marcel, and other tropes. Some of this is common to all<br>
> EuroAmerican social science, but some of this is specifically notable<br>
> for<br>
> AI. Empirically, it has usually done very well in Church related<br>
> organizations, which 'get' it quickly.<br>
> <br>
> Hope this helps,<br>
> <br>
> Punya<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Punya Upadhyaya, Ph.D.<br>
> Cell: (505) 770-7718<br>
> <a href="mailto:punya@laplaza.org">punya@laplaza.org</a><br>
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Subject: AI and Solution focused management?<br>
Date: Sat, May 28, 2005, 4:26 AM<br>
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10.0pt'>Hello dear list members!</span></font> <br>
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<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sometimes I have heard here in
Sweden of Lösningsfokuserat arbetssätt - Solutions focused management I believe
is the English term. And today Istumbled over a webpage and I have been
searching around there for a bit. It says that the method was invented or
described by Steve de Shazer och Insoo Kim Berg from Brief Family Therapy
Centre, Milwaukee, USA. And as I understand its used for example in short time
therapy but also in groups/companies to create better work environment, improve
teamwork and results.</span></font> <br>
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<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>My question is if anyone of you
know what the difference is between a Solution focused approach and
Appreciative inquiry? Both talk about focus on whats working, that the answer
is within us</span></font> <br>
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<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>All the best from a soon to be
summer weather and the west coast of Sweden</span></font> <br>
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<font size=2><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Eva</span></font> <br>
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