Idea / suggestion for a little change at openspaceworld.org

Sun May 29 10:42:55 PDT 2005

in the end, gabriela, it's all .ORG.  it's all hosted and linked
to/from .ORG homepage.  what you are referring to as .ORG and what i
was being lazy in referring to is the English wiki space.  .ORG hosts
many sections.  what most people probably think of as the main .ORG
site is the English language wiki.

there are several other wikis hosted there in different languages and
also this space i referred to as .NET.  you are right, it's open to
posting in any language.  what's most important about it, though, is
that it is meant to be a more public workspace, as you say, to show
people some things that are happening in ost, but also to give people
space to bring their work to public view or community access.

the way it is evolving, the English wiki is really quite stable and
less publicly edited.  it's essentially the website of the OSI-USA,
assembled from lots of places.  similarly, other linguistically- and
regionally-delineated groups are starting to build their own wiki
spaces under the .ORG umbrella.  the .NET space is wide open community
space, and the content would then tend to be more dynamic.  it's also
messier.

the reason i suggested that we put the invitations in the .NET space
is because in the past, those things have either required my tending
and tidying and if i didn't clean them up then they'd be left to make
a mess.  i decided i didn't want to worry about that mess, so i just
stopped putting them in the more finished and tidy space that is the
English wiki.

at the same time, while it was enough extra work for me to take
notice, there were never enough of these invitations to do justice to
representing our worldwide community and practice and spirit, so i
always felt like the invites section was a little bare.

now, if there are a number of people ready now to post notices of
their upcoming events, it occurs to me that one clean way to do this
would be to post them into a running weblog that could sit on our main
homepage.  it would be cool to have a running ticker of short blurbs
(a few lines at most) about so many events happening worldwide.

that weblog idea would take a bit of work to set up.  some time to
investigate, too.  might have to be an email list to which people sent
those blurbs.  that way they could automatically roll into the dustbin
rather than me needing to clean them up all the time.

are you or others willing to work on this sort of calendar?  if you
want to have a simple page page in the English wiki, i'll put the link
and you can fill out the page.  what are the rules that should govern
that?  what is eligible to for posting?  who will keep that page
cleaned up when events are over?  these are the things i'm wondering
just now.

one way to do this is for anyone who really wants such a calendar
space to create it at .NET and when it's up, i would put a link to it
from the English homepage.  then, if it got to be a very dynamic
thing, i would be glad to discuss more creative ways of organizing it.
  more thoughts?

michael

p.s. as for traffic, i haven't looked in a long time.  and now that
they've changed the way stats are reported at our hositng outfit, i'm
not even sure where the stats currently live.

On 5/27/05, Gabriela Ender <gabriela.ender at openspace-online.com> wrote:
> Hello Michael,
>
> when I understand it right ... the .ORG side is an open invitation to
> connect with the people and practices, insights and experiences that are OST
> and the .NET side is a place to show the practice of OST. I have a bit
> difficulties to understand, why we have two wikis. Maybe you explained it
> already several times :) Was the idea to have one side (in diferent
> languages) only for OST newcomers and one as a resource side for active OST
> colleagues? My impression is, that the .ORG side is much more known than the
> other side. It would be interesting to know how many visitors the .ORG side
> per month has and how many the .NET side has. Could you tell me/us the
> amount of visitors? I guess, that a huge number of websites and OST
> colleagues have a link only to the .ORG side. Therefore I think, that a
> section "Community Events" could make sense at the .ORG side (because this
> is the place for open invitation to connect people).
>
> But if you think .NET is the right place -- okay, I am also happy with this
> solution :)
>
> Do I need an access code to insert an event at .NET ? This page is "only to
> read" too.
>
> Thanks a lot!
> Gabriela
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Herman" <mjherman at gmail.com>
> To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Idea / suggestion for a little change at openspaceworld.org
>
>
> > It makes perfect sense, Gabriela, and yet I've made this section
> > several times and it always just sits there with nothing, or perhaps
> > one or two things listed.  I think the place to make it would be in
> > the .NET side of the house, if we try it one more time.  Do you want
> > to set it up?
> >
> > michael
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/27/05, Gabriela Ender <gabriela.ender at openspace-online.com> wrote:
> > > Dear Michael H., dear all,
> > >
> > > today I thought it would be a good idea, to post the upcoming
> > > OpenSpace-Online(r) Community and Benefit Conference for OST
> facilitators at
> > > our Open Space wiki. But I could not find an event section within the
> main
> > > structure of http://www.openspaceworld.org/wiki/wiki/wiki.cgi.
> > >
> > > I would like to make a suggestion to change a bit this structure. I
> think,
> > > that it would be a good further step to include a further item called
> "Open
> > > Space Community Events" with sub-itmes as "International OSonOS",
> "Regional
> > > OSonOS", "Stammtische", "Online-Conferences" and "Other Events". My
> > > suggestion would be, that the sub-items are open (currently these pages
> are
> > > "read only") for the open space colleagues to insert self-organized
> > > "Stammtisch or other Event News".
> > >
> > > What do you think? Thanks a lot in advance!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Gabriela
> > >
> > > Please have a look below ... I paste the current structure and then my
> new
> > > suggestions.
> > > =============================
> > > Current structure:
> > > =============================
> > >
> > > What Is Open Space?
> > >
> > > AboutOpenSpace - an executive summary with links to stories and
> explanations
> > > BooksAndVideos - resources to purchase and other recommendations
> > > TrainingDirectory - who to contact for training workshops around the
> world
> > > ResearchActivities - a deeper look at Open Space
> > > OngoingOpenSpace - continuing and conscious practice as inviting,
> > > interactive organization
> > >
> > > Active Community Support
> > >
> > > FacilitatorResources - little things that make things easier
> > > EmailDiscussionGroups - how to join the OSLIST (worldwide) and other
> > > (regional) email listserves for OST practitioners
> > > OpenSpaceOnOpenSpace - the annual int'l practitioner conference and
> > > occasionally some local/regional conferences
> > > OpenSpaceInstitutes - news and contact info for local practice groups
> > > worldwide
> > > FacilitatorDirectory - contact info for those interested in supporting
> your
> > > practice of Open Space
> > > OtherWebsites - links to websites with significant offerings of Open
> Space
> > > stories, resources and other support
> > >
> > > An Open Practice Space
> > >
> > > OSWorldNET:OpenSpaceWorldNET - new wiki for ongoing demonstration of
> project
> > > and conference groups in Open Space
> > > OSWorldNET:OpenSpaceInstituteUSA - online working space for the
> > > OpenSpaceInstituteUSA international board of directors
> > >
> > > =============================
> > > Suggestions for a changed structure:
> > > =============================
> > >
> > > What Is Open Space?
> > >
> > > AboutOpenSpace - an executive summary with links to stories and
> explanations
> > > BooksAndVideos - resources to purchase and other recommendations
> > > TrainingDirectory - who to contact for training workshops around the
> world
> > > ResearchActivities - a deeper look at Open Space
> > > OngoingOpenSpace - continuing and conscious practice as inviting,
> > > interactive organization
> > >
> > > Active Community Support
> > >
> > > FacilitatorResources - little things that make things easier
> > > EmailDiscussionGroups - how to join the OSLIST (worldwide) and other
> > > (regional) email listserves for OST practitioners
> > > OpenSpaceInstitutes - news and contact info for local practice groups
> > > worldwide
> > > FacilitatorDirectory - contact info for those interested in supporting
> your
> > > practice of Open Space
> > > OtherWebsites - links to websites with significant offerings of Open
> Space
> > > stories, resources and other support
> > >
> > > Open Space Community Events
> > >
> > > OpenSpaceOnOpenSpace - the annual int'l practitioner conference
> > > OpenSpaceOnOpenSpac - local/regional practitioner conferences
> > > Open Space Stammtische - xxx
> > > Online-Conferences - xxx
> > > Other Events - xxx
> > >
> > > An Open Practice Space
> > >
> > > OSWorldNET:OpenSpaceWorldNET - new wiki for ongoing demonstration of
> project
> > > and conference groups in Open Space
> > > OSWorldNET:OpenSpaceInstituteUSA - online working space for the
> > > OpenSpaceInstituteUSA international board of directors
> > > =============================
> > >
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