a very simple reason

[Funda Oral]

As i am very interested in OST, as i want to work and live in that area; i
am also questioning
and thinking about OST community.

This was one of the subjects discussed at OSonOS in Goa.

I enjoy being a part of OSLIST, learning about your experiences, thoughts
etc.
But i am not sure if we are cooperating enough for marketing of OST,
introducing
it to many area where it's urgently needed. This is a product that we are
all passionate
about.

I appreciate many individual efforts that i am hearing through the list, but
i don't see
or feel the synergy of being a part of a community ( that might be my
personal problem,
but that's how i feel anyway)

So i agree with Raffi when he says "glass-ceiling"...that's also my feeling,
though i keep
you busy with my comments and messages all the time.

But i am very glad that Harrison is around. I don't think that he wants to
or has to
manage, control this child "OST" anymore...I respect him for having spent
time
to create this product and keeps thinking about it and ready to support us
by his
experiences, comments,ideas...that's already more then enough.

But there is a "glass-ceiling" somewhere, somehow.........this is one of the
reasons i sometimes think
it would be better for me to change my choice and do something else (as was
my thought at the closing
in Goa).

Maybe it is too much "self" organizing......"self" means you're alone, do
anything you can by your own,
share with us your adventure, we (OSList) is here to listen you, to
communicate with you, answer
your questions...and help you with anything you say you need.

There must next step now ( as Harrison was feeling when sharing his
reflections after Goa)
but i don't know what it is, how we willl go there.

Funda


Original Message -----
From: "Raffi Aftandelian" <raffi at bk.ru>
To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 10:46 AM
Subject: a very simple reason


> There's a very simple reason, I believe, why something else will
> probably come to replace OST in some 5 years time.
>
> I believe that when Harrison says that all there is is Open Space, he
> is right...but only in reference to our current prevailing worldview,
> our current paradigm.
>
> I believe that a new paradigm is being born right now, it may become
> clearer in the next 5 years. But we don't talk about new paradigms in
> polite company. It's kinda like farting loudly. You just don't do it.
>
> One way of framing our current paradigm is to open to p.2 of Marv
> Weisbord and Sandra Janoff's 1995 book "Future Search: An Action Guide
> to Finding Common Ground in Organizations and Communities."--
>
> The Learning Curve
> 1900 Experts Solve problems
> 1950 "Everybody" solves problems
> 1965 Experts improve whole systems
> 2000 "Everybody" improves whole systems
>
> I recall a number of years back that I wondered, well, what comes
> after the last paradigm. And now I think I realize that many people
> have already probably answered the question. I don't think it's
> appropriate to try to answer it on the listserv, maybe for the same
> reason that it may no longer be appropriate for you, Harrison, to be
> on this listserv or to continue "teaching" or "doing" open space.
>
> In Goa, if I recall correctly, you spoke about how a new generation of
> folks have started doing OST, and that maybe it is time for you to
> step aside. More than six months have passed and you haven't stepped
> aside. Your baby, OST, is college age, the age of majority. It is
> voting age, it can get married, it can have children, it can get
> drafted in the military, and do all the other interesting things in life.
>
> Might the walk of the warrior for you, Harrison, be to auction your
> hat on e-bay and walk out of the circle?
>
> Warmly,
> Raffi
>
>
>                           mailto:raffi at bk.ru
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