Multiple Facilitator Roles in Open Space

Wed May 4 07:52:32 PDT 2005

In further support of Harrison's response, I also noted Shawn's comment
about an "objective of an organization."  This reifies "organization"
but without the people, there is no such thing as organization. Walk
into a building with a logo outside and no one inside to interact with
and you know you haven't found an organization. Dr. Ralph Stacey who
uses complexity to go beyond system's thinking says the individual,
group, organization and society are all aspects of the same thing. We
are using his complex responses of relating to guide and explain the
transformation we are seeing where I work.  

Diane Ross

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Harrison Owen
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Shawn Wrote: I'm not too sure that all self-organising systems have
beginnings, middles and ends because what you see depends, in part, on
your observation point and scale of observation. When dealing with say,
trust, which might be conceptualised as a self-organising emergent
property of people interacting, it is difficult to pinpoint the start
and end points.  

Regarding health and unhealthy self-organisation perhaps an indication
of health of the system is the length of time order is sustained. I
remember Charles Handy saying that the basic objective of an
organisation is to exists because while it exists it can do things
individuals cannot.

No problem - one can certainly understand individuals and organizations
as pre-existing (potentially) and lasting through all eternity - as
memories, electronic wave forms, or whatever. But at a practical level
it would be fair to say that I was not around in 1934. On a miraculous
day, December 2, 1935, Harrison burst on the scene. I began. Since then
I have been causing no small amount of trouble (in the middle of my
life). And sometime, probably not too far in the future, that Troubler
will cease. I die, end, take the big trip. Perhaps I will linger on as a
memory. Maybe some idle thought I had will contribute to some future
event. But as an active participant on this level of existence, I ain't.
I don't really see any essential difference between me and organizations
in general. We all come, hang about for a bit, and go. To be sure, some
folks are hopeful that "their" organization (nation, Church, business)
will somehow beat the odds, but to date I have not seen much evidence to
support that hope. During the almost 70 years that I have been
privileged to be present here on Planet Earth I have witnessed more than
a few "eternal institutions" pass on by. Eastern Airlines, Pan American,
The British Empire, The Third Reich (which was supposed to be good for
1000 years) - to name a few. From where I sit, Beginning, Middle, and
End pretty well sums it up.

Harrison

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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Shawn
Callahan
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Hi Harrison, I'm new to the list and have been enjoying the posts. By
way of introduction I live in Melbourne and work as a consultant who
helps organisations grapple with intractable issues. My two main tools
are narrative and complexity. You can probably see why I'm very
interested in open space. This interest was amplified after meeting
Brian Bainbridge a couple of weeks ago and bumping into Chris Corrigan
through blog links.

I'm not too sure that all self-organising systems have beginnings,
middles and ends because what you see depends, in part, on your
observation point and scale of observation. When dealing with say,
trust, which might be conceptualised as a self-organising emergent
property of people interacting, it is difficult to pinpoint the start
and end points.  

Regarding health and unhealthy self-organisation perhaps an indication
of health of the system is the length of time order is sustained. I
remember Charles Handy saying that the basic objective of an
organisation is to exists because while it exists it can do things
individuals cannot.

Regards

Shawn Callahan

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Harrison Owen
Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2005 1:22 AM
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Subject: FW: Multiple Facilitator Roles in Open Space

Michael: clue me in on what a "healthy self-organizing system" is.
Seems that there might be "unhealthy self-organizing systems"?
Got examples?

I think - all self-organizing systems, as also all organisms -- have
beginnings, middles, and ends. When it is over, its is over, and quite
often at the end things become a little less than healthy.

Harrison 

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Pannwitz, Michael M
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:33 AM
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Subject: Re: Multiple Facilitator Roles in Open Space

Dear Jack and you others,
clue me in on what a "healthy self-organizing system" is.
Seems that there might be "unhealthy self-organizing systems"?
Got examples?
Greetings from Berlin
mmp

--Original Message Text---
From: Jack Ricchiuto
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 07:47:04 -0400

There may be then in all dozens of "facilitators" who participate in the
unfolding of space. In that sense, the power and passion and
responsibility of facilitation is distributed/decentralized, as power
and passion and responsibility is in any healthy self-organizing system.

Jack

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