conducting OST meeting for an organization that is just forming
Raffi Aftandelian
raffi at bk.ru
Wed Jun 29 05:22:08 PDT 2005
Harrison,
I really appreciated your response.
Height of foolishness?
I guess I'm on the right track. There's a certain je ne sais quoi
about potentially landing face first...
And, the point about my own dream being burst from day one like an OS
soap bubble is well-taken. That was a very important reality check...
If I could say what one of my dreams around essenceworks is: it is the
following:
To develop an easily replicable model of an OST "remembering" and
consulting firm within the next two years. I aim to prove that one can
earn $20k/month minimum with this model. Legally. In Russia. Not
"working" more than 40 hours/week.
Then, the aim is to make this model freely available and downloadable
from the internet from a non-slick, low graphics website in Russian
and- to humor the non-Russian speakers of this whirled - also in English.
I may well succeed. Or, I just may well end up, pardon me, somewhere
else...
Raffi
charter member
Society for Constructive Obnoxiousness
mailto:raffi at bk.ru
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>From Wed Jun 29 08:25:08 2005
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Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:25:08 -0700
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From: Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Craig--Questions
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I might also point out Fran Peavey's work on strategic questioning:
http://www.crabgrass.org/site/strategic_1.html
This is a great resource.
Chris
On 6/29/05, Harrison Owen <hhowen at comcast.net> wrote:
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> sufficiently specific so that they know what is at issue, sufficiently op=
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> so that there is plenty of room for exploration (space), provocative so t=
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> business as usual is set on its head, and attractive or nobody will come.=
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> Crafting such a question is a wonderful opportunity to work with the grou=
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> involved. It is the old question of why do you really want to do this (OS=
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> anyhow, and what would be different if you did? But oddly, I have never h=
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> much difficulty coming up with the question -- I think because I really=
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> don't worry about the words. My focus is on the group -- the pain, the=20
> pleasure, the hopes, the fears. The Question just seems to pop up in the=
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> conversation, usually when you aren't expecting it to do so.=20
> As for examples of good questions -- I am sure everybody has their=20
> favorite. Mine happens to be, "Fixing Arizona -- Issues and Opportunities=
?"=20
> And if you don't have a clue what that might be about, I think that is ju=
st=20
> the point. The Question is so context specific that unless you know the=
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> context, or better yet, are part of that context -- The Question doesn't=
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> grab you. And of course, you would not be attracted to that OS -- which i=
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> also the point.=20
> For more on Questions you might take another look at The User's Guide fo=
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> some specifics. Also my article at=20
> http://www.openspaceworld.com/Opening%20Space%20for%20The%20Question.htm
> You might also enjoy a book by a friend of mine, Marilee Goldberg (now=
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> Adams, I think) called something like "The Art of the Question." I believ=
e=20
> Barrett-Koehler published it.=20
> Harrison
> Harrison Owen
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
> Potomac, MD 20854
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> 301-365-2093
> 207-763-3261 (summer)
> website www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
> =20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> *From:* Craig Gilliam <wcraiggilliam at hotmail.com>=20
> *To:* OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU=20
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2005 6:14 PM
> *Subject:* Craig--Questions
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> As I work with OS, it seems that the question (call it calling question o=
r=20
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> theme) around which the OS emerges is critical. The appropriate question=
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> carefully worded seems to hold the potential to take a group to those=20
> unexplored regions.
>=20
> Is there any collection or list of questions people have used/developed=
=20
> through OS? I think it would be a helpful and fascinating list.
>=20
> Is there any good literature on what makes for a provocative question tha=
t=20
>=20
> allows groups to move to a deeper levels of emotional and spiritual=20
> process?
>=20
> Thanks!,
> Craig
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I might also point out Fran Peavey's work on strategic questioning:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.crabgrass.org/site/strategic_1.html">http://www.crabg=
rass.org/site/strategic_1.html</a><br>
<br>
This is a great resource.<br>
<br>
Chris<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 6/29/05, <b class=3D"gmail=
_sendername">Harrison Owen</b> <<a href=3D"mailto:hhowen at comcast.net">hh=
owen at comcast.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;=
padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><font face=3D"Arial">There is little question that The Question is mor=
e than=20
questionable. In fact if it is questionable it ain't The Question. Or somet=
hing.=20
The importance of The Question derives from the fact that Open Space is a=
=20
question. Or maybe better - The Question represents the first opening of sp=
ace.=20
In order to do its job it must be relevant (to the group), sufficiently spe=
cific=20
so that they know what is at issue, sufficiently open so that there is plen=
ty of=20
room for exploration (space), provocative so that business as usual is set =
on=20
its head, and attractive or nobody will come. Crafting such a question is a=
=20
wonderful opportunity to work with the group involved. It is the old questi=
on of=20
why do you really want to do this (OS) anyhow, and what would be different =
if=20
you did? But oddly, I have never had much difficulty coming up with the que=
stion=20
-- I think because I really don't worry about the words. My focus is on the=
=20
group -- the pain, the pleasure, the hopes, the fears. The Question j=
ust=20
seems to pop up in the conversation, usually when you aren't expecting it t=
o do=20
so. </font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">As for examples of good questions -- I am s=
ure=20
everybody has their favorite. Mine happens to be, "Fixing Arizon=
a --=20
Issues and Opportunities?" And if you don't have a clue what that migh=
t be=20
about, I think that is just the point. The Question is so context specific =
that=20
unless you know the context, or better yet, are part of that context -- The=
=20
Question doesn't grab you. And of course, you would not be attracted to tha=
t OS=20
-- which is also the point. </font></div>
<div> </div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">For more on Questions you might take another look=
at The=20
User's Guide for some specifics. Also my article at <a href=3D"http://www.o=
penspaceworld.com/Opening%20Space%20for%20The%20Question.htm" target=3D"_bl=
ank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.op=
enspaceworld.com/Opening%20Space%20for%20The%20Question.htm
</a></font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">You might also enjoy a book by a friend of mine, =
Marilee=20
Goldberg (now Adams, I think) called something like "The Art of the Qu=
estion." I=20
believe Barrett-Koehler published it. </font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">Harrison</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font> </div>
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20854<br>USA<br>301-365-2093<br>207-763-3261 (summer)<br>website <a href=3D=
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x; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">
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ust: none; font-stretch: normal;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
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<b>From:</b>=20
<a title=3D"wcraiggilliam at hotmail.com" href=3D"mailto:wcraiggilliam at hotma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event=
,this)">Craig Gilliam</a> </div>
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ust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"OSLIST at LISTSERV.BO=
ISESTATE.EDU" href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target=3D"_bla=
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ust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 28, 2005 6:14=
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ust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Craig--Questions</div>
<div><br></div>As I work with OS, it seems that the question (call it cal=
ling=20
question or <br>theme) around which the OS emerges is critical. The=
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appropriate question <br>carefully worded seems to hold the potential to =
take=20
a group to those <br>unexplored regions.<br><br>Is there any collection o=
r=20
list of questions people have used/developed <br>through OS? I thin=
k it=20
would be a helpful and fascinating list.<br><br>Is there any good literat=
ure=20
on what makes for a provocative question that <br>allows groups to move t=
o a=20
deeper levels of emotional and spiritual=20
process?<br><br>Thanks!,<br>Craig<br><br>*<br>*<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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