After dinner conversations

[Pannwitz, Michael M]

communication often works better when not in the technology of words
greetings from Berlin not back here very long from my trip to the
Ukraine
"training" 47 people for 120 hours and assisting in an os in Kiev
without knowing one word of their language
but understanding a lot
mmp

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From: Susan M Kerr
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 21:22:05 EDT

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In a message dated 6/9/2005 7:58:38 P.M. Central Standard Time,
duff at innergy.ca writes:

I never  thought of these as "open space" but now that I look at it,
I
suppose they  are.

duff

Reading this brought an experience to mind that I would now call open
 space.

It was a Native American pipe circle held in a buffalo field (we went
to
Janesville, WI, to pay homage to a white buffalo calf born there). We
first
stood in an open circle, one person walked it silently as we smudged
(sweet  grass
burning in an abalone shell; we drew the smoke towards  ourselves
while this
person holding it fanned it to us with a feather),  then we sat and
passed a
pipe, again, silently. The pipe held some kind of  tobacco but
nothing
hallucinogenic (more sweet grass? I'm not really sure).  Afterwards
when we were
mingling and talking I saw into  another's eyes deeper than I ever
had (with anyone
- I did not  even know this person). I remember thinking, "why is he
letting
me look so  far in?"

So maybe open space works even when the communication is not in
words?

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In a message dated 6/9/2005 7:58:38 P.M. Central Standard Time,=20
duff at innergy.ca writes:
I never=20 thought of these as "open space" but now that I look at
it, I suppose they= =20 are.

duff

Reading this brought an experience to mind that I would now call
open=20 space.

It was a Native American pipe circle held in a buffalo field (we went
t= o=20 Janesville, WI, to pay homage to a white buffalo calf born
there). We first=20 stood in an open circle, one person walked it
silently as we smudged (s= weet=20 grass burning in an abalone shell;
we drew the smoke towards=20 ourselves while this person holding it
fanned it to us with a feather),= =20 then we sat and passed a pipe,
again, silently. The pipe held some kind of=20 tobacco but nothing
hallucinogenic (more sweet grass? I'm not really sure).=20 Afterwards
when we were mingling and talking I saw into=20 another's eyes deeper
than I ever had (with anyone - I did no= t=20 even know this person).
I remember thinking, "why is he letting me look= so=20 far in?"

So maybe open space works even when the communication is not in=20
word

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Michael M Pannwitz, boscop eg i.G.
Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
++49-30-772 8000
www.boscop.de   www.michaelmpannwitz.de

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