from Ukraine

Raffi Aftandelian raffi at bk.ru
Sun Jun 5 03:52:33 PDT 2005


Paul,
Thank you for this clarification.  This was really helpful. I hope you
too can make it to Heavenfax. I hope I can. I can't promise that I
won't be off-putting, though!

I have been thinking much recently about whether training is
appropriate at all. If OST is an invitation to be more "conscious"
(again, bold quotes) in how we work with groups, might I have to
think twice before offering more of that sameness, another portion of
McDonalds fries with that burger?

Turns out education comes from the latin "educere": to lead out. I
have no qualms with leading out.

Raffi


In a message dated 5/27/05 12:09:59 AM, jotoepfer at boscop.de writes:


>> (we feel we have to find a new word for what is called training
>> a€“ any ideas?)
>

>Michael and Jo;

>Yes, call it "education", prosaic as that may seem.   But, consider:

>Training is for sameness.   If you want to have sameness every time (like in
>accounting, or quality, or routine operations, etc.), anything that is made
>into a routine, you probably want the same outcome every time, ergo:
>predictability.   Thus you will do training.

>Education is for difference.  If you want your colleagues in the event to be
>able to handle difference afterward, then you will educate.   Lots of
>implications for being able to think, reason, make inferences, critically evaluate,
>etc.   Wholly different strategy.   Probably Open Space works.   I tend to use
>Socratic questioning.

>I hasten to add two things---one is not necessarily superior or inferior to
>the other.

>First, the reality of the situation dictates what it needs for the necessary
>result.   Thus sometimes you will want training, sometimes education.

>Second, this separation of training and education is not original with me.
>It comes from one of my life teachers from South Africa.   Profound influence
>on my life.   He separated many meanings so that one is more clear when one
>speaks.   I have found this separation very useful in keeping focused when I
>gather a group of people together for an event.

>Sincerely,

>Paul Everett


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