London calling

[Tree Fitzpatrick]

Paul, I did not use your name with the intention of being derogatory.
Not at all.  I repeated your name because I was addressing your words.
 I can see how that might have sounded aggressive and I apologize if
you felt attacked.

As to my comment about 'white men', I made a passing comment. I get to
be me, here on the list and here in the world.  I like to maintain a
conscious awareness that mostly white men have created the world we
live in.  I get to have my perceptions and I do not have to defend
them.  I did not issue an edict or proclamation.  I was talking.  I
hope you know, Paul, that what you read into my words is about your
perceptions, not mine.

This is not the first time, Paul, that you have projected anger on me
that is about you, not me.


On 7/14/05, EVERETT813 at aol.com <EVERETT813 at aol.com> wrote:
>  
> In a message dated 7/13/2005 2:07:03 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> therese.fitzpatrick at gmail.com writes: 
> Paul wrote:  I'm sorry if you assumed there would be a session on
> "muslims" at Halifax.
> Never was in my mind at all.  I was surprised to see that it somehow arose
> > in yours.  And I tend to agree with you that such a session would 'go
> > nowhere', as I witnessed one such between Jews and Palestinians at the
> > Practice of Peace here in Washington State a year or so ago.  Excellent
> > points were made, ideas exchanged, lots of tension, correction, testy
> > exchanges, etc., but I doubt any minds were changed.  No blows were
> > exchanged, either.  And, as far as I can tell, which isn't far, nothing of
> > substance changed in the situation, either.
>  
>  
> Therese, 
>   
> Thank you for that summary of what happened from the PoP conference.  Please
> note that I do not have the same sources of information that you do.  Please
> also note I was NOT talking about the outcome(s) of the conference, which
> you enumerated, but only of the discussion I witnessed.  Please note my last
> sentence.  Apparently I was incorrect, minds were changed.  That is good. It
> is also not usual. The Isreali/Palestinian situation may be slowly
> resolving. I am not inherently optimistic about the capacity of humans for
> peaceful resolution of issues.  The world does not reflect it very often. 
>   
> I don't know what is agitating you so (damn) much.  In an earlier post you
> denigrated white men in power, as if the reason things were going badly was
> because they were white men.  I am a white man. Am I some unholy Other
> because I'm a white man?  I also strongly resented your continued use of my
> name in your post in a derogatory manner.  I got the message, I didn't need
> the put downs.  Reminded me of Anthony's speech where he whips up the masses
> against Ceasar's assassins.  Are you wanting to whip up the masses??  To
> what end?  Violence?  As I said, it is the inner violence which must be
> tamed before there will be a world without outer violence.  That requires
> Consciousness.  Read up on the Senoi Indians of the Malay Penninsula.  It
> will be instructive. 
>   
> The whole thing left a foul taste in my mouth and heart and mind. 
>   
> Paul Everett 


-- 
Warmly,
Tree Fitzpatrick

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