London calling--long reply

[Funda Oral]

Paul,

Ok, i agree we can discuss the truths and rules imposed on us by all the religions. I often think that they make us sick, they separate us,
they encourage us being enemy of each other rather then brothers. Or maybe, not the religions but the leaders do so.

Jon,

Thank you for keeping us informed and sharing with us what is happening in London but I am very doubtful that your (G8) leaders are wise
as mentioned in your mail. Our leaders are not wise either.

But even worse, i am afraid they cooperate more to be in power rather then for the benefit of all the human beings and the world.

Did anyone watch Fahrenheit 9/11?....What i saw there was; some men in power (religious, business leaders) from all the religions     
coming together to play with the rest of the world.

If we look around carefully to find who is responsible of what is happening, I don't think the answer is  "a bunch of terrorists" 

Funda

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: EVERETT813 at aol.com 
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  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 9:37 AM
  Subject: Re: London calling--long reply



  In a message dated 7/8/05 11:10:06 PM, chris.corrigan at gmail.com writes:



    I don't usually weigh in on stuff like this, and I'm sure others will tan your hide for it, but Paul, I have to stand in front of the rash generalizations you are making about "Muslims."



  Sorry, Chris, I don't regard those as "rash generalizations", Friedman is correct, NO high order Muslim from any Muslim nation has issued a fatwa on bin Laden and his followers.  By that I mean someone of the stature that issued the fatwa against Salman Rushdie for publishing a book they deemed defamed Muhammad.  The Muslim Islamic cleric leader of Iran.   

  And, of course, you are correct.  There are millions of Muslims who abhor what is happening.  They want peace, too.  They want a life of freedom, economic security, etc., why else would they leave their repressive homelands to come to the Western nations?  Friedman's point (and mine) is unless IMPORTANT people of the leadership of Muslim nations start to speak out in loud, consistent tones that such is not part of the Koran (Ch. 5, v. 32; ch. 17, v. 33 according to an Immam I heard on the news tonight) and their societies begin to isolate and negate these people, we are in for a very bad time, indeed.

  You may be enlightened, but I will predict that if this goes on, and gets worse, large numbers of people will not be acting in an enlightened manner.  We all know about the 'tipping point'.  It happens in societies, too.  It CAN happen here. Imagine the reaction of even a very large minority to a WMD incident in a major Western nation.  It won't be pretty.

  Finally, there is much that can be done to avoid Huntington's Thesis, but it takes a long time, a long time, and will take something along the line of Martin Luther's 95 Theses within Islam before we will see a genuine rapproachment between the globalizing West and the Islamic world.  I believe we need to see the world as it is, not as we wish it was, and take steps accordingly.

  Sincerely,

  Paul Everett

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