Opening a Space for Peace in Burundi & Central Africa

Therese Fitzpatrick therese.fitzpatrick at gmail.com
Sun Jan 16 15:38:55 PST 2005


Being a Contrarian myself as well as a bit aggressively non-Christian,
I have to say that I feel a tiny bit bruised by this thread.  A simple
statement of fact, as in "this organization serves Jesus Christ" is
not a public discussion of religion in a public space devoted to
'other subjects'.  I feel a bit opressed by what feels to me like your
aggression Artur.  You, Artur, are certainly free to believe in a
zealous, rigorous separation of all things religious from everything
intellectually important but here in open space, I prefer to believe
that the spiritual realm of life cannot be separateed from any
intellectually important discussion about anything.


On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 07:08:16 -0500, Harrison Owen <hhowen at comcast.net> wrote:
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Funda Oral
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 4:19 AM
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject: Re: Opening a Space for Peace in Burundi & Central Africa
>
> Peggy,
> Thank you very much, i will read the report.
>
> Artur,
>
> I am still laughing at your below explanation;
>
> "reference to religious matters in public spaces devoted to other subjects
> or to support political, ideological or professional options  will be
> considered so abnormal as if someone discusses, say, one's private sexual
> life in public... "
>
> or maybe it can be the contrary...
>
> "reference to religious matters and reference to sexual life  would be
> completely normal and polite everywhere...at every discussions"
>
> it's also cold and rainy here.
> Funda
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peggy Holman" <peggy at opencirclecompany.com>
> To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 10:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Opening a Space for Peace in Burundi & Central Africa
>
> > Funda,
> >
> > I can't answer your question directly because I don't know.  They
> certainly
> > promote peace.  Beyond that, the best I can do is send Mike Seymour's trip
> > report from his visit to Burundi.  (below)
> >
> > I'm glad you found the ideas of value.
> >
> > from cold, rainy Seattle,
> > Peggy
> >
> > August 28, 2004
> >
> >
> > Mike Seymour's Report on Trip to Bujumbura, Burundi August 12-24, 2004
> >
> >
> >
> > Greetings:
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm just back from a life-changing journey to Burundi, Central Africa,
> where
> > I spent the last two weeks working with Prosper Ndabishuriye (who many of
> > you met at the Practice of Peace Open Space Conference here on Whidbey
> > Island last November). His organization (Youth in Reconstruction of a
> World
> > in Destruction) is involved in peace-building through building homes for
> > refugees, peace conferences and leadership development. As this note is
> > fairly long, read it when you have some leisure time if you are busy now.
> > In a few days I'll send you a link to pictures from the trip.
> >
> >
> >
> > First Impressions
> >
> >
> > Having been in other high-poverty places-like India and Korea 40 years
> ago-I
> > was less shocked than I might have been at seeing dilapidated buildings
> that
> > haven't seen paint since the Colonial era, endless roads with potholes or
> no
> > surface except rocks, streams of people walking along the sides of the
> road
> > (or a jitney bikes)-there being few cars outside of the capital city of
> > Bujumbura.  Homes are modest mud brick dwellings, perhaps 400-600 square
> > feet in size, for the most part. The usual litter of paper and plastic can
> > be seen most everywhere, and in some areas (like the Buiza district in
> > Bujumbura City) is really bad-- poor air quality because everyone cooks
> with
> > wood or coal. The first thing I notice is I'm automatically taking shorter
> > breaths-as if that could keep the particulates out of my lungs. But the
> air
> > quality improves the next day as the weather is drier.  In fact, I arrive
> on
> > the only rainy day they've had in months that summer-a fact not unnoticed
> by
> > Prosper who says there is a Burundian tradition that the one who comes
> with
> > the rain brings blessing. (The good omen proved true, for me as much as
> > anyone). Quickly, I got used to the "poverty." There was something that
> > seemed normal to me about it which I can't quite explain now that I'm back
> > here on Whidbey amidst relative wealth. Burundi, mind you, is the third
> > poorest country in the world out of 177 countries listed in the UN-and the
> > per capita income is something like $100 per year.  I tried to imagine if
> I
> > listed all these 177 countries on a text document, on what page would
> > Burundi appear-somewhere at the end of page four, I think. This kind of
> math
> > is hard to fathom-and what's amazing is to see so many people not only
> > alive, but also thriving and smiling.  One wonders how much of a mythology
> > we've built up in the west about what is a minimal, necessary life
> style!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > The military is everywhere.  In developed countries, we're not used to
> > seeing so many soldiers in uniform-many with automatic weapons-signs of
> > continued insecurity due to the years of Hutu-Tutsi ethnic conflict which
> > has claimed over 600,000 lives and countless displaced families.  As if to
> > ensure we didn't forget the kind of environment our peace efforts are
> > working in, several days after I arrived the rebel Hutu faction (some
> 25,000
> > strong which are all around the capital city region) attacked a camp of
> > Congolese Tutsi refugees in Gatumba near the Congo border that was being
> > guarded by Burundian government soldiers. Over 160 refugees, including
> > soldiers, were killed.  (If you want more on this go to:
> > http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/WO0408/S00151.htm.) The day I left, a
> > large Thai airliner came in with a contingent of fresh, Thai UN troops--
> and
> > there is lots of concern for the possibility of an escalation of tensions
> > and mutual reprisals on both sides.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The Work-the inner part
> >
> >
> >
> > The work is always both inner and outer-interlocking universes turning in
> > tandem with one another, so I cannot understand the outer journey apart
> from
> > the inner one, both for myself, Prosper and the many people who shared in
> > this by either being in Burundi at the time or by being there virtually in
> > prayer and spirit-as many of you were-and we thank you for your presence.
> > Very simply, for me another window in my personal journey opened quite
> > suddenly and wonderfully as I realized by day 2 or 3 that indeed my heart
> > had been mysteriously knit to the Burundian people and that I was being
> > called to step outside the box, beyond personal comfort zone and exercise
> > greater faith and play on a bigger field of work than I had thought of.
> I've
> > said so many times that my life is something that happened on the way to
> > someplace else. In the case of Burundi, I NEVER in my wildest imagination
> > could have cooked up being involved in Africa, going to what the State
> > Department calls a high-risk area and being involved with a Christian
> > evangelical organization (Prosper is an Evangelist)-having evolved from my
> > early Christian "born again" experience to a more contemplative form of
> > Christianity and then, quite naturally, onto to becoming a Buddhist in the
> > Vipassana tradition.  But of course, I felt totally at home with all of
> > this-not the least of which was the spirit-rousing church service Prosper
> > brought me to that first Sunday at which I was asked to share my testimony
> > of how I came to Christ. So, there I was passionately telling this story
> > from 26 years ago-and Prosper keeps telling me throughout my stay that
> > people come up to him and say they think I must be an evangelist. And here
> I
> > had my heart set on becoming more monk-like and spending time in a
> monastery
> > in Burma.  Go figure!!
> >
> >
> >
> > Throughout, this journey has been marked by these improbable turning
> points
> > at which I said "Yes" when the natural thing to do-what a big part of me
> > wanted to do-was to say "No." Perhaps this is how God works-we are led
> down
> > of path not completely of our own conscious choosing, only to see, once
> we've
> > gotten there, how perfect it is for us to be there.  This started with the
> > Practice of peace Conference where it was the Bayview school students who
> > wanted to go to Africa (having met Prosper) and then they asked me if I
> > would go-and I couldn't easily say "No" as I had donated the money for
> them
> > to attend.  Then the kids dropped out since Burundi is rated unsafe by the
> > State Dept., so I had to decide "Will I go," and again I said yes, after
> > asking Heather Ogilvy if she would go also.  Then Prosper asks if I will
> be
> > a conduit for funds people want to donate-easy enough to do, only then
> > shortly after he sends me a letter saying he has appointed me the US
> > representative for JRMD.  At this I really balked, as I am way too busy
> and
> > this entails, if I take it seriously, fund-raising I don't want to or feel
> > qualified to do.  But after sitting on his e-mail for two days, I think of
> > the situation there and say to myself "I can't not do this." But all the
> > time I feel this pressure from the desperate situation in Burundi, and
> have
> > this sinking feeling (which I confirm once in Burundi) that there is in
> fact
> > nobody else but me which has volunteered to raise money for this
> > organization which is slated to build 800 homes for refugees. This is a
> bit
> > like being in a dream in which you're moving but not under your own
> > power-something else much bigger is drawing you along.  This can feel a
> bit
> > scary, until I realized that I not only am I not in control, but don't
> have
> > to be-that there are forces (history, justice, God, people's prayers, the
> > vacuum of need which is Central Africa) which are shaping events way
> beyond
> > my ability or need to see the whole picture-only to play whatever small
> part
> > is mine to play--and be happy about that.
> >
> >
> >
> > The Outer Work-Opening a Space for Peace
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > As I allowed myself more and more to be "given" to this work, it became
> > clear that Prosper and JRMD/YRWD (Youth in Reconstruction of a World in
> > Destruction) with myself and The Heritage Institute were forming a
> > partnership, and that my contribution of ideas, values, energy and
> presence
> > are in the long run as important as the funds we are able to bring in.
> The
> > great enthusiasm that my presence generated everywhere we went convinced
> my
> > once and for all it was right for me to have spent the $1,800 on airfare-a
> > sum I worried about as I felt it might be better to simply donate that
> > amount.  You see, since the ethnic conflicts erupted in 1993, foreigners
> > simply don't make many visits to Burundi, except in some kind of official
> > capacity like the UN (which has a big presence and a 5000 man
> peace-keeping
> > force) or the foreign embassy people.  Otherwise, the outside world is
> > absent, and there can be this sense of hopelessness, of nobody in the
> larger
> > world noticing or caring much.  So, it is a REALLY BIG DEAL when a
> > foreigner, especially a person with white skin from America, comes to
> > Burundi.  And this is magnified by the fact that people in Burundi realize
> > their government is a bit of a joke, strapped for cash and not able to
> > really help them; and the same goes for many foreign NGO's whose overhead
> > soaks up most of the budget so that precious little effects anything on
> the
> > ground.
> >
> >
> >
> > So, knowing all this, and driving around seeing soldiers in uniform
> > everywhere--many of whom wouldn't know if you asked what there mission
> is-I
> > realized the tremendous potential of an organization like Youth in
> > Reconstruction which--being a low-overhead, local, grass-roots
> organization
> > which counts on many committed volunteers-can get so much done.  Case in
> > point: Habitat for Humanity came and left Burundi because of the political
> > situation-they managed to build only 30 homes and a much higher cost than
> > JRMD.  JRMD has already built 1,500 since 1993.  In the Carama district we
> > visited the next project where 800 homes will be built using the JRMD team
> > of volunteers and with help from many donors. We'll do this for half the
> > cost of a NW mini-mansion. A budget Prosper recently developed indicates
> > that these homes will only need an additional $315/home to be built, since
> > an agreement with a local government agency for refugee resettlement is
> > picking up the roofing costs which comes out to over 36% of the home cost.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The JRMD/THI partnership involves an integrated effort for peace-building,
> > including home building for refugees; promoting awareness of Burundi and
> the
> > Central African situation through citizen diplomacy and public speaking;
> > peace-building through conferences and youth leadership development and
> > educational initiatives linking American and Burundian schools.   Please
> > refer to the Appendix where the partnership agreement is spelled out in
> > detail.  Here I'll relate what portions of it we actually did while I was
> in
> > Burundi.
> >
> >
> >
> > Carama District-Kinama Zone
> > Helping 800 Refugee Families to Rebuild their Homes
> >
> >
> > Prosper and I visited the Carama district at least 3-4 times during my two
> > week stay. Here, all the houses were completely destroyed in the fighting
> > over the past years-especially in 2000, and virtually nobody lives here at
> > this time.  However, under the guidance and with hope from JRMD and their
> > field team of 21 volunteers, families who used to live in this area are
> > slowly being encouraged to return and rebuild their homes with JRMD help.
> > Orphans, widows and others with limited ability are encouraged to join
> > together and work as a community to help build homes.  Rivulets bringing
> > water on site from a nearby water system enable earth to be softened to a
> > muddy texture, and packed into wooden forms then dried into bricks about
> 18
> > inches in length by 8 inches on either side. The JRMD team uses string
> lines
> > and levels to get the bricks into even rows high enough for door and
> window
> > lintels, then another few layers of brick are put on before the roofing is
> > done-consisting of beams (local trees) and metals sheeting nailed in
> place.
> > This is sustainable development in action. The families themselves do the
> > work and all materials are local-even the trees for the beams could be
> > replanted-a project we are interested in.  Homes here go up for between
> $600
> > total. But, due to The Burundian government Commission on Refugee
> > Rehabiliatation donation of metal roofing, costs for the 800 homes for
> JRMD
> > will only be about $252,000, or about $315/home. Imagine being able to
> house
> > almost 5,000 people for less than the cost of an average Puget Sound
> > house!!!
> >
> >
> >
> > I met many old men, old women and children working side by side.  They
> were
> > tired...many hadn't eaten for a day or more, since they were not earning
> > money when they worked on their own homes.  But I could clearly see the
> > happiness and glow in their faces.  I have never failed to notice and be
> > stirred by the presence of spiritual wealth in the face of material
> poverty;
> > and then, coming back to the states as I have many times from overseas,
> > seeing spiritual poverty amidst material wealth.  This spirit/matter
> > relationship is the subject of religious discourse.  One man joked with
> > Prosper that he hadn't gone to the bathroom for two days, because he
> hadn't
> > eaten in that time.  We all laughed.  The following week, as the funds
> > Prosper and I were living from also dwindled, and we were taking less
> food,
> > I had a chance to say that I too had not gone to the bathroom in a while
> > since I had taken in so little food.  In fact, I found myself wanting less
> > food...it just seemed natural to me to be in harmony with what the average
> > person experiences here.
> >
> >
> >
> > Shortly after I arrived, Prosper ordered enough wooden beams for about 50
> > houses, and this caused a big stir.  We can now envision as many as 240+
> > homes being able to have a roof on before the rainy season next year, with
> > funds we expect to raise as Prosper comes to the Northwest this October.
> >
> >
> >
> > Open Space Conference-Bujumbura
> >
> >
> > Prosper had mentioned wanting to hold an open space conference for youth
> > during my stay, but by the time I arrived we had only received only about
> > $250 toward the estimated $2,500 to put on a quality event-including food,
> > transportation funds (as many don't have even enough bus money), facility
> > rental, musicians, translators, photocopying etc.  We were both in a
> buoyant
> > mood, sensing that the visit was going well and there was a lot of spirit
> > behind the work. So, I ventured an offer to put up $1000 for a more
> limited
> > event if no money came in. The next day Prosper told me that would not be
> > necessary as a person neither one of us knew had already e-mailed Prosper
> > the night before that she would donate $2,500 for the Open space event. We
> > want to express our gratitude to Ellie Kierson for her faith and
> generosity,
> > and knew beyond any doubt that higher powers were on our side in this
> > mission.
> >
> >
> >
> > The Open Space took place over Friday and Saturday morning, and we had a
> > truly wonderful, spirit-filled event with 71 people attending.  Most were
> > students or young working people, including many from the JRMD field team,
> > JRMD staff and other volunteers. It was really a blessing that we had 2-3
> > young people from the Congo and as many, also, from Kenya-several of whom
> > turned out to be very inspiring and promising leaders.
> >
> >
> >
> > During this two days, a model for peace-building clearly emerged which we
> > could train young people to do.  There was a vision put forth to approach
> > the churches in Burundi as a resource for this kind of peace-building
> model,
> > as 86% of the country is Christian-most of that Catholic, with most  of
> the
> > rest being protestant, evangelical.
> >
> >
> >
> > There is a great advantage to being able to work at a deep spiritual level
> > and based on a common language and values when most of the people in the
> > room believe in the same things.  And so, when we laid a foundation of
> > teaching about peace based on Christian precepts, using both biblical as
> > well as indigenous metaphors, a powerful common sacred ground emerged for
> > this work which brought everyone together.  All our meetings were begun
> and
> > ended in prayer, music and dancing which brought such great joy to
> everyone.
> > It became to clear to me if leaders of any opposing forces would only
> gather
> > together in song, prayer and eating of food, that killing one another
> > afterward would be so much harder to do.  This became clear to everyone
> > present-how simple peace can be when the heart is in the right place.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, many people continued to hang around for hours-relishing the
> > time together and not wanting to go home.  We look forward to the next
> time.
> >
> >
> >
> > AfricaAmericaExchange-Schools Project NW & Burundi
> >
> >
> >
> > Ever since The Heritage Institute launched its distance education program
> in
> > 1995, we have had a vision (expressed in our logo) of forming a global,
> > internet exchange connecting young people and their teachers from around
> the
> > world--each classroom working on projects of their own choosing that
> benefit
> > their communities.  At last we are able to realize that vision with
> > AfricaAmericaExchange.  Here six secondary schools from Bujumbura and six
> > schools from Washington state will all work on projects that will benefit
> > their own or the larger world community, and then they will communicate
> with
> > each other about their projects and progress using Yahoo Groups as a
> > discussion space, for posting files and pictures etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > We met with a group of 25 or so students and teachers for an afternoon
> > workshop and orientation and then had training sessions at the Tropicana
> > CyberCafe, as only one of the schools there had computers with an internet
> > connection.  The schools represented are: Ceste School, Saint
> Esprit-Ceebu,
> > Lycee Kinama, Lycee du Lac, Lycee Municipal Ruziba, Lycee Municipal
> Rohero.
> >
> >
> >
> > The kids and teachers were all so excited to receive the internet training
> > as well as training in how to use the digital camera I brought which was
> > given to JRMD to be loaned out as each school needs.  There were many
> > questions about how to choose a project which we answered as best we
> > could-saying basically that we did not have money to fund any project
> beyond
> > a small budget for internet fees and for student transportation
> to-and-from
> > the CyberCafe.  Each school will survey its own community, doing an
> informal
> > needs assessment, and then determine where they can be effective.  We gave
> > many examples  of short-term projects (community-building workshops,
> > environmental clean-up, education about HIV/AIDS that bear no cost and can
> > do some good.
> >
> >
> >
> > As of now, Langley Middle School (Susie Richards) and Eagle Harbor High
> > School in Bainbridge Island are on board in the NW.  I will find four more
> > schools before Prosper comes in October, and then he and I will visit each
> > school for an orientation session.
> >
> >
> >
> > The project begins formally on October 15 and lasts 5 months, through the
> > end of February, 2005.  Already, the Burundian schools have signed up for
> > Yahoo e-mail accounts and have prepared a digital photo album for each
> > school.  We are all excited about the possibilities that will emerge from
> > this first experiment which, if successful, can be offered to more
> schools.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >    Opening a Space for Peace
> >
> >
> >
> > A partnership between
> >
> > Jeunesse en Reconstruction du Monde en Destruction  (JRMD)
> >
> > Youth in Reconstruction of a World in Destruction  (YRWD) in English and
> >
> > The Heritage Institute (THI), USA
> >
> >
> >
> > Prosper Ndabishuriye, General Coordinator of JRMD and Mike Seymour,
> > President of The Heritage Institute, USA (THI) are happy to announce the
> > formation of a partnership between their two organizations for the
> purposes
> > of opening a space for peace for the people of Burundi as well as those of
> > other Central African countries in the Great Lakes region who have
> suffered
> > through war and its tragic consequences.
> >
> >
> >
> > This dynamic partnership will enable many intergrated levels of
> > peace-building to occur for the people of Burundi and the region. This
> will
> > include refugee resettlement through home- building; promoting awareness
> and
> > compassion among Americans and Europeans of the situation and needs in
> > Central Africa through international citizen diplomacy and cross-cultural
> > dialogue; educating for peace through Burundi/America school partnerships,
> > conferences and literature that offer hope in teaching about the skills
> and
> > attitudes for  peace.
> >
> >
> >
> > First, the JRMD/THI partnership will assist in the resettlement of
> refugees
> > displaced by over ten years of ethnic wars by helping them to build homes
> > for themselves. JRMD has successfully assisted in the building over 1,500
> > homes since 1993 through a sustainable, grass-roots development model that
> > uses inexpensive local materials and the willing involvement of future
> > homeowners who, working together, find support and a new sense of
> community.
> > The JRMD/THI partnership will enable another 800 homes to be built in the
> > Carama district of Kinama zone in the capital city of Bujumbura. Since
> June
> > 2004, this latest initiative already has sufficient progress so that by
> > November, 2004 as many as 200+ homes will have walls and roof-enough for
> > families to begin moving in, even though the homes will not be fully
> > complete.
> >
> >
> >
> > Second, this partnership will build awareness and compassion for the needs
> > of Burundians and others in the region among people in America and Europe.
> > With the help of The Heritage Institute in the USA and others in Holland,
> > JRMD/THI will be able to speak before many business associations, chambers
> > of commerce, schools, churches and at the homes of enthusiastic
> supporters.
> > Video and other presentations of the suffering in Burundi, and how the
> > JRMD/THI partnership brings hope and homes to deserving people is expected
> > to touch many hearts-building a strong donor foundation to support the
> > partnership work.
> >
> >
> >
> > From this group of committed supporters will come a delegation of
> Americans
> > and Europeans who, in 2006 or 2007, will form a mission that comes to
> > Burundi to further advance the peace-building process. Under the name
> Global
> > Citizen Journey, as many as 25 people from the USA or Europe will journey
> to
> > Burundi to work along side equal numbers of Burundians to build homes,
> plant
> > trees and to also deepen their relationship through workshops and
> > conversations on peace-building themes.
> >
> >
> >
> > As part of this 2-3 week mission, the JRMD/THI partnership will extend an
> > invitation to the governments of Burundi and other countries in the Great
> > Lakes region to participate in a  Pan-African conference on peace.
> > Government leaders, NGO's, the UN and many volunteers working at the grass
> > roots level will be invited to attend, share their successes and failures,
> > coordinate policies and explore how partnerships may enhance individual
> > organization's mission.
> >
> >
> >
> > Finally, and very important, the JRMD/THI partnership will promote the
> > development of leadership among youth in both in Africa as well as America
> > and Europe. This will be done through an educational initiative that
> > involves students and teachers in community improvement projects and
> > cross-cultural dialogue, using the Internet as the medium of
> communication.
> > Named the AfricaAmericaExchange, this initiative will begin for the first
> > time in Fall 2004 between four schools in Burundi and a comparable number
> in
> > the state of Washington in the USA. Each group of students and teachers
> will
> > discuss and decide on what kind of activity they will undertake under the
> > criteria that the project will "...make the world a better place." A sense
> > of global community will develop as students in the AfricaAmericaExchange
> > send emails to one another and post file and pictures of their work on a
> > specially selected Internet site. As stories are shared, cultural
> > understanding and friendships will grow.
> >
> >
> >
> > The JRMD/THI partnership is founded on the belief that peace starts from
> > within-that we must be peaceful within ourselves as a condition to make
> > peace between ourselves and others. This is seen as a work of
> relationship,
> > reconciliation and mutual grieving together for past losses to free the
> > heart from its burdens-relating deeply to ourselves and who we are, to
> > others in the human community, to earth and to spirit. Only as we know and
> > relate to our own hearts can we truly know and relate to others. As we
> thus
> > build community with one another we can then in peace engage in a most
> > important reconciliation of people with Earth our home, working to
> preserve
> > the health and integrity of the natural world on which we are all vitally
> > dependent. Through this process of relationship to self, community and
> > Earth, we may discover a heart and spirit common to all humanity, and thus
> > grow in our ability to celebrate the rich diversity of cultural and
> > religious expression which is our great human inheritance.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bujumbura, August 17, 2004
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike Seymour
> > Prosper Ndabishuriye
> >
> >
> >
> > Director of Heritage Institute, USA
> > General Coordinator
> >
> >
> >                      Jeunesse en Reconstruction
> >
> >
> >                     du Monde en Destruction
> >
> >
> >                     JRMD/YRWD
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Funda Oral" <fundaoral at ttnet.net.tr>
> > To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 7:31 AM
> > Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Opening a Space for Peace in Burundi & Central
> Africa
> >
> >
> > > Dear Peggy,
> > >
> > > I forwarded these two web sites to some friends to make them see how
> young
> > > people can be active because we were currently discussing about some
> > > similar
> > > projects.
> > >
> > > http://jrmd.org/.
> > > www.hol.edu/aax
> > >
> > > But they are asking if these organizations promote peace or do they aim
> to
> > > promote christ?
> > > or both? as we read following sentences on "jrmd" web page.
> > >
> > > " We made Christ known through His Love in Action"
> > > " The culture of Christ's Love in Action."
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > > Funda
> > >
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