On self-organizing

[Funda Oral]

Masud-i can see the following distinction;  when i relate everything around
me....when i watch TV or read a book
(non- living systems) if they add me something about how i will then
interract with life (living systems)
i feel more connected, pay more attention (unintentionally, naturally)
.....but on the other hand the real, ongoing life changes so fast that
books, news on the TV may become very quickly obsolete, unreal for me...

Some of them (non living systems as you say) add me something, change me; so
my interraction with my ongoing, present life changes,

Harrison, you wrote;  "Here in the US, very few people actually ever die, at
least that would seem to be the case if you listen to
how people talk. It is said - So and so  "passed on," "took the big trip,"
"Passed to the other side" - But it seems that nobody ever dies"

The expression we frequently use when someone dies is..."we lost
him/her"...which means something happened
to us ( subject is "we",  more then to "him/her")....which means we (all
family members, frineds, colleagues etc...) belong each other....

Funda

----- Original Message -----
From: "Masud Sheikh" <masheikh at COGECO.CA>
To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: On self-organizing


> Harrison Owen wrote:
>
> >Masud -- I know the devil made me do it -- but when I saw your words,
"For
> >instance, do we give more respect to "non-living" weapons systems or to
> >living "human systems"?" -- I found myself answering, "Human Systems, of
> >course, at least usually -- but what happens when the human systems are
in
> >fact weapons systems? And where do you draw the line between them anyhow?
> >
> >Harrison
>
> Good point Harrison,
> Perhaps I can change the example to say:
> Give more importance to books (rather than humans) that are interpreted as
> if they were dead rather than living. The books, of course, may be
> religious books, or organizational procedures that no longer "live"
> Masud
>
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