On self-organizing

[Filiz Telek]

Harrison, 

What about the universe as a living system? How can we speculate on the
end of it?

 

filiz

 

 

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Harrison Owen
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Funda - I would believe that answer to your question (do they have to
sustain or survive???.......) is no. Fact of the matter is that all
Living Systems have a beginning, middle and end. We love the beginning,
tolerate the middle, and don't want to talk about the end. And that
leads to all sorts of interesting mental gymnastics. Here in the US,
very few people actually ever die, at least that would seem to be the
case if you listen to how people talk. It is said - So and so  "passed
on," "took the big trip," "Passed to the other side" - But it seems that
nobody ever dies. The same is true when we talk about organizations.
Somehow they are supposed to live for ever, and when the end comes that
is automatically taken as failure. 

 

Harrison

 

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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Funda
Oral
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 9:00 AM
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all systems are self organizing but not all systems are living
(sustaining)

 

i don't know 

 

Funda

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        From: Ralph Copleman <mailto:rcopleman at comcast.net>  

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        My vote goes to:
	
        All systems are self-organizing, and...
	
        There is no such thing as a non-living system.
	
	
        Ralph Copleman
	
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