access

[Funda Oral]

How we can make it accessible to everybody who we think is appropriate for
the "theme"

is it by invitation? is it by financing them?.......It is not easy to change
the mind set of those people
who have been convinced that they are "outside"  for long time.

How to make them feel that they are "inside"  whoever they are?

Funda
----- Original Message -----
From: "john engle" <englejohn at hotmail.com>
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 5:01 AM
Subject: access


> or maybe those who couldn't come were:
>
> 1) modern day slaves - there's tens of millions of them around the world
> 2) too hungry and weak to be aware of the meeting and to get there -
there's
> hundreds of millions or more in this category
> 3) too humiliated because they were part of the wrong social class and
knew
> that there would be people who did not make them feel welcome because of
> their accent, color of skin, state of their clothes, lack of education,
> coming from the wrong family or ethnic background, etc. - again, hundreds
of
> millions in this category
> 4) were behind prison bars, be they guilty or not guilty of a crime
> 5) know that they could not travel because of roadblocks, checkpoints,
> general insecurity
> 6) unable to read the invitation - last credible stats i read were that
> nearly one billion of the world's population does not read in their mother
> tongue
> 7) unable to even conceive of having the luxury of time for a half day or
> day long meeting given they work 6 days a week and make less than US$1 per
> day - again, a good portion of the world.
>
> and while many among these seven categories might overlap, i'm sure that
> others on this list could come up with other categories of people who
don't
> have the luxury of "caring" for anything beyond survival in the moment.
>
> is there a way that we who are on this oslist, who might not be subject to
> any of the above conditions/restrictions can make sure that we're forever
> aware of people who would love to have the luxury of being a part of these
> wonderful experiences in os that we've all had? how do we do this? so many
> of you have been involved in making os experiences accessible to people
who
> are normally the outcasts of society.... lisa heft, kerry, joelle,
harrison,
> peggy, chris, doug... fortunately, the list is long. and let's commit
> ourselves to continue to push the envelope on this one.
>
> john
>
>
>
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>
> >From: Harrison Owen <hhowen at comcast.net>
> >Reply-To: OSLIST <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> >To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> >Subject: Re: FW: 1st OS in Vietnam
> >Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 14:36:24 -0400
> >
> >Masud Wrote: Do we need to use "right" or "appropriate" for people?
> >If we say "whatever happened is the only thing that could have happened"
> >(if I remember the words correctly) why can we not also say; "Whoever
came
> >are the only people who could have come"
> >
> >********************
> >I suppose we could -- but that would miss the point, I think. Lots of
> >people
> >"could have come" but only a certain number really cared (enough) to
come.
> >And besides, they are the only ones present :-). Their "care" makes them
> >the
> >right/appropriate/present people. And in my book, it is the "caring" that
> >counts. That doesn't make all the other "possibles" bad, evil, immoral,
or
> >ugly -- they just didn't care enough to come. Maybe next time????
> >
> >Harrison
> >
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Masud
> >Sheikh
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:54 PM
> >To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> >Subject: Re: FW: 1st OS in Vietnam
> >
> >Do we need to use "right" or "appropriate" for people?
> >If we say "whatever happened is the only thing that could have happened"
> >(if I remember the words correctly) why can we not also say;
> >
> >"Whoever came are the only people who could have come"
> >Masud
> >
> >On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:28:45 -0700, Elwin and Joan
elwinandjoan at yahoo.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> > >--- Harrison Owen <hhowen at comcast.net> wrote:
> > >> Idiomatic language is devilishly hard to translate,
> > >> and I suspect idiomatic (colloquial) English is the worst offender.
> > >I
> > >> opted for "right" = "appropriate." Sounded good to me. What do you
> > >> think?
> > >
> > >Harrison,
> > >
> > >I think you did the "right" thing!  Since 90% of my OST is in former
> > >USSR countries I am constantly asked the same question(s) about the
> > >terms used in the Four Principles.  Again, you did the right...err
> > >"appropriate" thing.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Elwin Guild
> > >Future Development International
> > >Baltimore
> > >elwinandjoan at yahoo.com
> >
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