What would you do?

Christine Whitney Sanchez milagro27 at cox.net
Thu Feb 26 21:41:15 PST 2004


Michael, Birgitt and Jack,

Thanks so much.  You have done a wonderful job of expressing most of the
concerns I've had and then offering concrete suggestions about how to work
with them.  It's a very good idea and not too late to narrow the topic
(Birgitt - thanks for that) so that this very important larger topic can be
given much more time and space in future events.  Fortunately, it's never
been billed as Open Space Technology but rather Open Space Dialogue (this
was in the program description before I was even hired) so it will quite
possible to set this up as intentional self-organization (thanks Michael)
and only later mention what might be accomplished in 2 or 3 days of OST (the
sponsor and I are having that conversation already).  And Jack, thanks for
the suggestion of using this time to open the conversation about how to
frame the much larger conversation.

I will stick with the one longer session, be clear about outcomes and yes,
Birgitt, the closing circle will close the whole forum.

I will let you know how it goes.

Namaste,

Christine

-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]On Behalf Of Jack
Ricchiuto
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 6:31 PM
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Subject: Re: What would you do?


Yes to Michael's points about normalizing the expectation to days not hours
for this scope, and weeks if the process needs to include the minds and
heart of multiple diverse stakeholders and stewards of current geographic
capabilities. 90 minutes may be a good first step just to open the
conversation on the givens, knowns, and unknowns of the focus.

Jack
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Herman [mailto:mherman at globalchicago.net]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 7:53 PM
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Subject: Re: What would you do?

whoops.  i missed the numbers part on the first pass.  yep.  this is
trickier.

i'd try to not even say OST until the end when you could say "this has
been a tiny, 1.5-hour slice of what normally would be 2 or 3 days."  in
situations like this, i've played the opening really quick and dirty and
called it "intentional self-organization" and only called it ost later
on, after they have an experiential context and can really appreciate
how it could go on for a couple of days.

also seems important to be really clear about what to expect as
outcomes.  as in, it might take another 20 minutes or so to get any real
miracles. <grin>

michaelh



Birgitt Williams wrote:

> Christine,
> If it was me, I wouldn't do a 1.5 hour meeting for 120-180
> participants (non profit leadership and management)  with a topic as
> broad as "what can we DO in the next year to build the capacity of
> our sector in Arizona?" .
>
> I believe that 3 1/2 hours is the shortest meeting in which one really
> experiences the open space of an Open Space Technology meeting.
> Anything shorter than that, in my experience, is a demonstration of
> people self managing within a set of instructions. Having said that,
> the topic is a very broad one and a very important one for this
> sector--not to be handled lightly. It is truly too bad that they
> didn't give you at least one whole day, preferably 2  1/2 days to
> really do justice to these people and the topic.
>
> Having said that, I think one of the challenges that you will face is
> the unlikelihood that all of your participants will be ready for you
> at the start of your appointed time, so you are unlikely to have your
> full 1 1/2 hours. So...I suggest you do your planning as though you
> have 1 1/4 hours. You need time for opening including making
> statements about the fact that OST has the capacity to include action
> planning but there won't be a special opportunity for this at this
> meeting. I think you will need to make the most of your words to
> explain what OST is when the right time is given or else you might
> have 180 people going off and leading exactly this kind of OST meeting
> throughout Arizona (often there are lots of people who imitate what
> they experience). Now, you can't prevent that--I realize it but maybe
> your words might help. Okay, you will have about ten minutes of your
> words, another ten minutes for topics to be posted, and then about 20
> minutes for your closing. I think you would be best to have only one
> session time. If you attempt to go with two and then even more time
> gets cut away by unexpected events, you might end up with big problems.
>
> Have they given you the right to use a closing circle to close their
> whole conference or is your closing only going to be the closing for
> your OST portion.
>
> I hope this helps. I can see why you would want to take advantage of
> the opportunity to showcase OST. However, having spent a long time in
> the social service sector, I know my own reaction to such a short time
> to discuss something so important would be very distressing.
>
> I wish you joy, peace, God's grace and blessings, and that you prosper
> in all things,
>
> Birgitt
>
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]On Behalf Of
>     Christine Whitney Sanchez
>     Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 2:57 PM
>     To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>     Subject: What would you do?
>
>     Dear Friends,
>
>     In a little more than a week, Arizona State University Center for
>     Nonprofit Leadership and Management is sponsoring the 6th Annual
>     Forum on Nonprofit Effectiveness:  Building the Capacity of
>     Arizona's Nonprofit Sector.  There will be between 120 - 180 NP
>     leaders from around the state who are well accustomed to the
>     format they will experience most of the day...expert panels and Q&A.
>
>     As a bold move on ASU's part, I've been asked to facilitate a very
>     short open space to finish the day focused on the convening
>     question, "What can we DO in the next year to build the capacity
>     of our sector in Arizona?"  No action planning, obviously but the
>     sponsors hope to stimulate a different level of dialogue.  Since
>     there is only 1.5 hours available for the open space session I am
>     leaning toward having only one 45minute breakout session with the
>     remainder of the time devoted to opening and closing.  But I've
>     also been considering 2 half hour breakout sessions with less time
>     for brief reports and the closing. Given that this is going to be
>     the first OST experience for nearly everyone in this group, I am
>     looking for a balance between longer, richer discussions in the
>     breakouts with the fuller self-organizing experience that 2
>     shorter breakouts might offer.
>
>     I would especially appreciate any examples of times where you've
>     opened space for this number of people in this short time frame
>     and what you found most effective.
>
>     Thanks in advance for sharing your insights and suggestions.
>
>
>     Christine
>
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