OS and convergence / Action Planning all the time

Harrison Owen hhowen at comcast.net
Fri Apr 23 14:55:14 PDT 2004


OK Artur, supreme logician that you are. Keeper of the Rational Realms --
you said: "Past, present and future do exist." I agree about the Present.
But everybody knows that past is over and the future hasn't happened yet.
And yes you have authorization to use the "g" word.

ho

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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Artur
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Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 4:27 PM
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Subject: Re: OS and convergence / Action Planning all the time

Harrison and all:

--- Harrison Owen <hhowen at comcast.net> wrote:

> Raffi raises a most interesting point. Action
> planning happenes when it
> happens. I know we tend to think -- First we do the
> open space and then get
> on to action planning, which usually involves some
> sort of convergance
> process and the like. There is a certain logic to
> all this, and doubtless it
> appeals to clients who may be a little nervous. But
> I think it may be the
> case that our logic blinds us to a rather different
> reality. I am not quite
> sure how to say this -- but something like -- It's
> all action Planning. From
> the moment the circle opens action planning is
> taking place (or not) -- but
> for sure the final hours of an OS are not the only
> time/space for action
> planning.

This is very interesting, Harrison. Since Berlin I
always had a bad feeeling about convergence and action
planning in the end. And that was not only because
there is not such thing as AP at OSONOS. It was really
about the concept of doing convergence (or non
convergence) AT THE END.

Now that you have refered it it is clear to me. If OST
is self-organization then change happens when it must
happen and not necesserally when we expect it, and
with or without planning.

Indeed change emerges - it is not always planned.

And more: we must not only "let go" of control, but
also of "convencional planning" - that, after all, is
where all control begins. Of corse this must be
explained to the customer in advance as it is a given
(if I am authorized to use the "g-word" myself...).

The only thing I think I disagree is that it has not
to do about the "past, present, future" question.
Past, present and future do exist. It is our
conception of "planning and later control" that is
erroneous.

My two euro-cents

Artur




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