Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

[Harrison Owen]

Just for the record -- I was talking about your own, personal DELETE BUTTON.
What you choose to do with that is what you choose to do. On the other hand,
if you choose to "unsubscribe" -- I call that exercising the two feet (Law
or not).
 ho

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From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Seamus
Mcinerney
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:35 PM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: Open Space / Open List / The Public Domain

I am not sure that [delete] is the same as the law of two feet. Deleting a
message erases it from the record, creating the impression that it never
happened but does not mean that the absence of learning or contribution is
occuring. A session participant cannot request his or her contributions to
be excluded from the session record because they don't want it to be
available to all.

Another issue will be the replies that contain the initial message. Are
they also to be deleted because they contain something that someone does
not wish to be archived? Does the whole conversation have to disappear to
eliminate references to some contribution or other? That feels like space
closing to me.

There is a difference between saying things that we later regret, saying
things that we intend for a limited audiance and saying things for the
whole world to hear, I know. In the heat of the conversation I'm not sure
any of us is realy clear as to who we intend our words for. It reminds us
to be careful. I am also reminded of the injunction to be harmless in
thought, word and deed. I am one of those who belive that our very
thoughts have an energy that adds, for better or worse, to the global mind
of humanity and that deletion or limitation of access makes no difference
in the great scheme of things.

Really hard choices are given to really good people. Well done one and all.

Shay

> I think of my online list serv communications on a par with verbal
> communication.  Things I post online are akin, in my thinking, to things I
> say with my voice in face to face conversations.  I do not control my
> words
> once they are verbalized and I do not control my thoughts/ideas once they
> are posted.  We can come up with  many structures  to attempt to control
> how
> our ideas/words/thoughts are interpreted by another. . . but no matter
> what
> structures we adopt, the mercurial quicksilver reality of ideas will
> remain
> ephemeral.  Even if we privatize the archives of this list, something I do
> not think we should do, we will not control the combustion of thinking or
> the context of another person's use of our ideas. I don't quite think of
> open space as a technology. . . I think of it as an explanation for how
> things actually work, as opposed to the illusion that form and structure
> could control the nature of reality.  If open space is a good explanation
> of
> how things work then efforts to privatize thinking is, in the very big
> picture, and in my humble opinion(IMHO), absolutely futile.
>
> Given my beliefs about the nature of reality and the relativity of time
> and
> space, I don't think it matters if the archives for this list are open or
> closed BUT I have a suggestion.  Would it be possible to give people the
> ability to delete their posts?  A delete function might give people a
> different sense of safety on this list. . . and such a function would be,
> IMHO, akin to the law of two feet.
>
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