The Wellness Revolution for Organizations

Fri May 9 19:10:36 PDT 2003

Birgitt--

If--
 << "the purpose of organizations is for the
 << evolvement of people" and ...all other purposes as secondary

then why call it--
 << "the Wellness Revolution for Organizations"

Over the last few years I have struggled with a closely allied question of
my own--whether or not to tell people that my work was about was Spirit.
Over those years, my thinking has gradually come around to the idea of
saying exactly what I was about, for good or ill. It is a question of
honesty--it just felt cleaner to say what I really meant. But that is just
the surface level of my thought process. It is also a matter that there is
not enough time to try to "sell" the people who cannot see the need. If you
had been reading my Footprints/sm over the last few years, it probably
would be noticable how many more times I have been using "Spirit" and "G-d"
and other synonyms, rather than the sugar-coating I used to do much more.
Have not gotten away from the "redirection" language entirely, but I am
trying.

So, Birgitt, although you asked for these replies off-list, I think it is
central to the discussion of who each one of us is and how we present
ourselves to talk frankly among ourselves about how we present this work.
So I hope you will see the value in it, and forgive me this ignoring of
your request. Perhaps you will share with the whole list how you are
shifting how you present your work to potential clients.

Maybe others would like to reply, too? What is your best on this: Do we
talk to people of Spirit and evolvement, or do we couch it in other
language, such as Wellness? (I am trying to be neutral in my choice of
language here, but suspect I have not succeeded.)

                              :-Doug. Germann

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>From  Sat May 10 10:47:26 2003
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john engle schrieb:...

> .... when it comes to working with people who have suffered things that are
> totally
> outside of my experience, and people who don't have near the privilege that
> i have, i just try to humble myself before them, honoring them by simply
> holding space so that they can address what they feel needs to be addressed.
>
> .... forgive me if i have rambled.
>

dear john

in reading and studying the words
»humbling« and »rambling«
I met two essentials
of facilitating open space.

thank you
florian

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"Douglas D. Germann, Sr." schrieb:

> .... Do we
> talk to people of Spirit and evolvement, or do we couch it in other
> language, such as Wellness? .

dear doug

why talking --?
why not listening to the words of people, folks, client --?
learning their language how to express their need
may they call or name it
wellness or spirit or G-d, growth, healing
enrichment, succes or development or evolvement --
it´s all about and within open space
beside or without any need of defintion --
i think
it´s working nearly independent of wording.

florian

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