convergence with

[Penny Scott]

Hi Seamus,

Rather than casting a lone dot, people were looking at where colleagues were
placing the most dots and narrowing down their decisions that way...kind of
like the 'party crossover' in the 11th hour of the election. It may increase
the chances of getting some things done, I'm not sure. I do realize that
this is the whole point of convergence but in this situation, I suspect the
final picture didn't reflect some critical things that people cared deeply
about. Most interesting to me would be the reasons people are converging on
particular dots, ie, are people assessing who's attached to which
initiative, second-guessing the likelihood of funding etc.

Penny

----- Original Message -----
From: Seamus McInerney <crossroadsfacilitation at eircom.net>
To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: convergence with


> Hi Penny,
> When you say "people were looking around and making assessments as to
where their dots would have the most weight". Do you mean it in terms of
looking good to others or that they were increasing the chances of getting
something done.
>
> If they were trying to ensure that their favourite was tackled first, is
this not an expression of passion for the task? As in what do I have to do
to make this happen?
>
> Shay
>
> >OSLIST <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU> wrote:
>
> >
> > hi joelle,
> >
> > i have a question about convergence in os using these dots; do context
and
> > situation have any bearing on how people vote using this method? or put
> > another way...can there be a peer pressure factor? the reason i'm asking
is
> > because i was in a meeting this week -- not os -- where we used sticky
dots
> > to converge on a large number of strategic goals the group had
brainstormed
> > and felt were important. toward the end of the stickydot-placing-frenzy,
it
> > seemed to me that people were looking around and making assessments as
to
> > where their dots would have the most weight. it seemed to lose purity at
> > that point. the process became more political for sure.
> >
> > any thoughts? Penny
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Joelle Lyons Everett <JLEShelton at aol.com>
> > To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: convergence with "stickie dots"
> >
> >
> > > Lisa--
> > >
> > > This is a question I have wondered about also--but I am not a
> > mathematician.
> > >
> > > One phenomenon that I have observed with almost any method of
convergence
> > is
> > > that a handful of ideas generally come to the top.  Don't know whether
> > this
> > > is a mathematical phenomenon or a reflection of underlying agreement
in
> > the
> > > group, which may have been invisible up to this point.  Seems like it
> > might
> > > be related to the fact that the same conversation often goes on in
several
> > > breakout sessions, regardless of the posted session topic.
> > >
> > > There are a lot of things in group dynamics which I can observe but
not
> > > explain. And I hope someone has a mathematical formula for deciding
how
> > many
> > > dots to give out.
> > >
> > > Joelle
> > >
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