OSLIST Digest - 5 Mar 2003 to 6 Mar 2003 (#2003-64)
David Smith
imaginac at bigpond.net.au
Fri Mar 7 20:47:28 PST 2003
Don't forget 'Opening Circle', Lisa, also 'Bells' or 'Tibetan Prayer Bells',
'Talking Stick' 'Computer Facilities' (for collating summaries of
discussions), 'CD Burning facility' for burning summary CDs as per
Marylands, 'Guitar' (prefeably including me so songs can be sung :) )
'Wine' as an important component of evening wind-down/discussion, 'Trust' an
essential component of the process...
I'll probably thinkof some more, Lisa, but there's a few to keep ya goin1
Cheers 'n all,
David
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> Topics of the day:
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> 1. Convergence with sticky dots
> 2. convergence with "stickie dots" (8)
> 3. convergence with (7)
> 4. Request
> 5. Facilitating the Whole System in the Room-Workshop with Marv and
Sandra in
> Berlin 2003
> 6. Glossary of Terms
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> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 07:33:46 -0000
> From: Eddie Palmer <eddie at palmer4421.freeserve.co.uk>
> Subject: Convergence with sticky dots
>
> Hi
>
> WE use this all the time for convergence, as the sponsor always wants a
> sense of the feeling of the group.
> No, I don't think there is a magic formula - we seem to have 5 or 6 issues
> rise to the top, no matter what the number of participants, or the numkber
> of dots. We give 5 dots each - minimum - to a large group i.e. 200 or so,
7
> to some, and 10 to 40-50 people. It just seems to work!
> As a former physicist, I'll give some thought to the maths!
>
> Eddie Palmer
> Open Futures
> Edinburgh
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> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 18:15:32 +1100
> From: John Moore <jmoore at netspace.net.au>
> Subject: Re: convergence with "stickie dots"
>
> Hi Lisa
>
> I don't have a mathematical formula, but I have been using
> ten-dots-for-four-priorities (4 dots to priority 1, 3 to priority 2, 2
> to p3, 1 to p4) for several years and it seems to work on two levels.
> First it is easy to explain and understand and second it does give good
> discrimination. The resulting list of prioritised items is typically
> about a quarter of the total possibilities. that's not a statistical
> analysis - it's my raw gut sense!
>
> i have used this in communities, corporations and local government
> settings. Seems to work in all of them.
>
> Cheers
>
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> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 10:42:34 +0000
> From: Seamus McInerney <crossroadsfacilitation at eircom.net>
> Subject: Re: convergence with
>
> Hi Penny,
> When you say "people were looking around and making assessments as to
where their dots would have the most weight". Do you mean it in terms of
looking good to others or that they were increasing the chances of getting
something done.
>
> If they were trying to ensure that their favourite was tackled first, is
this not an expression of passion for the task? As in what do I have to do
to make this happen?
>
> Shay
>
> >OSLIST <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU> wrote:
>
> >
> > hi joelle,
> >
> > i have a question about convergence in os using these dots; do context
and
> > situation have any bearing on how people vote using this method? or put
> > another way...can there be a peer pressure factor? the reason i'm asking
is
> > because i was in a meeting this week -- not os -- where we used sticky
dots
> > to converge on a large number of strategic goals the group had
brainstormed
> > and felt were important. toward the end of the stickydot-placing-frenzy,
it
> > seemed to me that people were looking around and making assessments as
to
> > where their dots would have the most weight. it seemed to lose purity at
> > that point. the process became more political for sure.
> >
> > any thoughts? Penny
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Joelle Lyons Everett <JLEShelton at aol.com>
> > To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: convergence with "stickie dots"
> >
> >
> > > Lisa--
> > >
> > > This is a question I have wondered about also--but I am not a
> > mathematician.
> > >
> > > One phenomenon that I have observed with almost any method of
convergence
> > is
> > > that a handful of ideas generally come to the top. Don't know whether
> > this
> > > is a mathematical phenomenon or a reflection of underlying agreement
in
> > the
> > > group, which may have been invisible up to this point. Seems like it
> > might
> > > be related to the fact that the same conversation often goes on in
several
> > > breakout sessions, regardless of the posted session topic.
> > >
> > > There are a lot of things in group dynamics which I can observe but
not
> > > explain. And I hope someone has a mathematical formula for deciding
how
> > many
> > > dots to give out.
> > >
> > > Joelle
> > >
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> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 22:34:19 +1100
> From: Fr Brian S Bainbridge <briansb at mira.net>
> Subject: Re: convergence with "stickie dots"
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> For Lisa Heft et al
> I have only ever used five dots, regardless of the number of
> participants.
> Always comes out with a small number of items focused on, and then a gap
> to the other matters on the walls.
> Whatever of mathematics and such - and I'm not into that - it just might
> be that participants re able to express their opinion clearly and
> helpfully. That's how it seems to me, at least.
> And there's always a gap between the "high dotted" items and the rest.
> It's kind of uncanny, but it always happens.
> One delicacy is the difficulty participants sometimes have in dotting a
> whole topic or a single item of that topic report. As usual, if they
> ask I respond whatever seems the right thing for you. That works, too.
> It's their program, after all.
> Cheers and blessings, BRIAN.
>
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> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:17:37 +0100
> From: "Pannwitz, Michael M" <mmpanne at snafu.de>
> Subject: Re: convergence with "stickie dots"
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> Dear Sticky Dotters,
> I have used the standard, 55 dots Delphi Method. It is a statistical
> procedure (described in the Users Guide), that gives you a standard
> curve. There are at least 4 issues, often 5 or 6 and sometimes 7, but
> never more than that which really have the heighest weight. This is
> regardless of number of issues in the sense of very many and
> regardless of the number of participants. It is very predictable. In
> addition, you get a broad field of issues closely bunched and always
> at least one that has a very low weight, sometimes two, I never had
> three.
> To me the question is, regardless of what weighing procedure you use
> (I try to avoid the words voting or prioritizing) what do you do with
> the results. What do the results mean?
> After having done it several times according to the book and in other
> ways, I found that often the issue with weighed most heavily did not
> get any action.
> Now, I have gone to consider all this as additional data. Just that,
> additional data for participants or the system.
> But not the basis for action planning.
> So after having done dots or a procedure I call "forming of families"
> (people selforganize bunching of issues and find a new heading for
> each bunch, usually it turns out to be seven bunches) I pause, ask
> everyone to have a look at all this and try to figure out what that
> means for them individually, for their work, their community, etc.
> And then I ask them to go to the center and write down (open space
> style) what they want to take action on.
> It is these action proposals I then ask people to congregate around
> and decide on first steps.
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
> On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 22:34:19 +1100, Fr Brian S Bainbridge wrote:
>
> >For Lisa Heft et al
> >I have only ever used five dots, regardless of the number of
> >participants.
> >Always comes out with a small number of items focused on, and then a gap
> >to the other matters on the walls.
> >Whatever of mathematics and such - and I'm not into that - it just might
> >be that participants re able to express their opinion clearly and
> >helpfully. That's how it seems to me, at least.
> >And there's always a gap between the "high dotted" items and the rest.
> >It's kind of uncanny, but it always happens.
> >One delicacy is the difficulty participants sometimes have in dotting a
> >whole topic or a single item of that topic report. As usual, if they
> >ask I respond whatever seems the right thing for you. That works, too.
> >It's their program, after all.
> >Cheers and blessings, BRIAN.
> >
> >
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DEFAULT="SIZE">Dear Sticky Dotters,<BR>
>
> I have used the standard, 55 dots Delphi Method. It is a statistical
procedure (described in the Users Guide), that gives you a standard curve.
There are at least 4 issues, often 5 or 6 and sometimes 7, but never more
than that which really have the heighest weight. This is regardless of
number of issues in the sense of very many and regardless of the number of
participants. It is very predictable. In addition, you get a broad field of
issues closely bunched and always at least one that has a very low weight,
sometimes two, I never had three.<BR>
>
> To me the question is, regardless of what weighing procedure you use (I
try to avoid the words voting or prioritizing) what do you do with the
results. What do the results mean?<BR>
>
> After having done it several times according to the book and in other
ways, I found that often the issue with weighed most heavily did not get any
action.<BR>
>
> Now, I have gone to consider all this as additional data. Just that,
additional data for participants or the system. <BR>
>
> But not the basis for action planning.<BR>
>
> So after having done dots or a procedure I call "forming of families"
(people selforganize bunching of issues and find a new heading for each
bunch, usually it turns out to be seven bunches) I pause, ask everyone to
have a look at all this and try to figure out what that means for them
individually, for their work, their community, etc.<BR>
>
> And then I ask them to go to the center and write down (open space style)
what they want to take action on.<BR>
>
> It is these action proposals I then ask people to congregate around and
decide on first steps.<BR>
>
> Greetings from Berlin<BR>
>
> mmp<BR>
>
> <BR>
>
> On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 22:34:19 +1100, Fr Brian S Bainbridge wrote:<BR>
>
> <BR>
>
> >For Lisa Heft et al<BR>
>
> >I have only ever used five dots, regardless of the number of<BR>
>
> >participants.<BR>
>
> >Always comes out with a small number of items focused on, and then a
gap<BR>
>
> >to the other matters on the walls.<BR>
>
> >Whatever of mathematics and such - and I'm not into that - it just
might<BR>
>
> >be that participants re able to express their opinion clearly and<BR>
>
> >helpfully. That's how it seems to me, at least.<BR>
>
> >And there's always a gap between the "high dotted" items and the
rest.<BR>
>
> >It's kind of uncanny, but it always happens.<BR>
>
> >One delicacy is the difficulty participants sometimes have in dotting
a<BR>
>
> >whole topic or a single item of that topic report. As usual, if
they<BR>
>
> >ask I respond whatever seems the right thing for you. That works,
too.<BR>
>
> >It's their program, after all.<BR>
>
> >Cheers and blessings, BRIAN.<BR>
>
> ><BR>
>
> ><BR>
>
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> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 07:57:46 -0800
> From: Penny Scott <pscott at axion.net>
> Subject: Re: convergence with
>
> Hi Seamus,
>
> Rather than casting a lone dot, people were looking at where colleagues
were
> placing the most dots and narrowing down their decisions that way...kind
of
> like the 'party crossover' in the 11th hour of the election. It may
increase
> the chances of getting some things done, I'm not sure. I do realize that
> this is the whole point of convergence but in this situation, I suspect
the
> final picture didn't reflect some critical things that people cared deeply
> about. Most interesting to me would be the reasons people are converging
on
> particular dots, ie, are people assessing who's attached to which
> initiative, second-guessing the likelihood of funding etc.
>
> Penny
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Seamus McInerney <crossroadsfacilitation at eircom.net>
> To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:42 AM
> Subject: Re: convergence with
>
>
> > Hi Penny,
> > When you say "people were looking around and making assessments as to
> where their dots would have the most weight". Do you mean it in terms of
> looking good to others or that they were increasing the chances of getting
> something done.
> >
> > If they were trying to ensure that their favourite was tackled first, is
> this not an expression of passion for the task? As in what do I have to do
> to make this happen?
> >
> > Shay
> >
> > >OSLIST <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > hi joelle,
> > >
> > > i have a question about convergence in os using these dots; do context
> and
> > > situation have any bearing on how people vote using this method? or
put
> > > another way...can there be a peer pressure factor? the reason i'm
asking
> is
> > > because i was in a meeting this week -- not os -- where we used sticky
> dots
> > > to converge on a large number of strategic goals the group had
> brainstormed
> > > and felt were important. toward the end of the
stickydot-placing-frenzy,
> it
> > > seemed to me that people were looking around and making assessments as
> to
> > > where their dots would have the most weight. it seemed to lose purity
at
> > > that point. the process became more political for sure.
> > >
> > > any thoughts? Penny
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Joelle Lyons Everett <JLEShelton at aol.com>
> > > To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: convergence with "stickie dots"
> > >
> > >
> > > > Lisa--
> > > >
> > > > This is a question I have wondered about also--but I am not a
> > > mathematician.
> > > >
> > > > One phenomenon that I have observed with almost any method of
> convergence
> > > is
> > > > that a handful of ideas generally come to the top. Don't know
whether
> > > this
> > > > is a mathematical phenomenon or a reflection of underlying agreement
> in
> > > the
> > > > group, which may have been invisible up to this point. Seems like
it
> > > might
> > > > be related to the fact that the same conversation often goes on in
> several
> > > > breakout sessions, regardless of the posted session topic.
> > > >
> > > > There are a lot of things in group dynamics which I can observe but
> not
> > > > explain. And I hope someone has a mathematical formula for deciding
> how
> > > many
> > > > dots to give out.
> > > >
> > > > Joelle
> > > >
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> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:17:57 EST
> From: "Esther ." <EwingChange at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: convergence with
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> One of the things that I've often said to the group just before they vote
is
> that if they like to, if there are things that a few people feel
passionate
> about, that didn't get enough dots to be a first priority, they can decide
to
> do some of them anyway or sometimes the sponsors of the event will agree
to
> put those items on a "bring forward" to consider at a later date when the
> highest priority items have been implemented or dealt with.
>
> Esther
>
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> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:26:25 EST
> From: "(David Koehler)" <Nsdmk at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: convergence with
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> Just to "weigh in" on the convergence issue. Michael Herman has the best
> system I've seen to gather priorities. He has participants vote via
> computer, which weights a persons ten choices in rank order. When all are
> done entering their picks, the software program quickly tabulates the
> results, which can then be reported back to the group before the closing
> circle begins.
>
> What I observed, when he did this at an educational OS in Peoria last
June,
> is that the politics were taken out of the process. Having done the dots
> before, I feel that in using the dot method, many people are influenced
by
> what they see their friends doing.
>
> Maybe Michael would be willing to say more about this.
>
> Dave Koehler
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> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:56:52 -0600
> From: Michael Herman <mherman at globalchicago.net>
> Subject: Re: convergence with
>
> yep, we did that in peoria, but for sure it's not *mine*...
> standard user's guide stuff and the tasc software that's
> been around forever (relatively speaking) and before i
> arrived.
>
> elsewhere... it seems all these weighing, voting, etc.
> processes are asking what "should" we do. i find more and
> more that i'm interested in what "will" we do. and that's
> why i usually skip over the actual voting bit and reopen for
> actions. the questions i usually use are "what else? (to
> finish lingering discussions) and what next?" i like, too,
> what harrison and some others mentioned at osonos this year,
> something like "what is necessary to support this spirit,
> action, work, project, whatever, going forward?" this lets
> people do all that processing and sifting in their bodies
> rather than in the computers. this seems what brian's
> response of "what seems right for you" does, too.
>
> i think the voting and the reopening can work fine together,
> as well. i'm not sure i've ever had the time available to
> do both.
>
> m
>
>
>
> "(David Koehler)" wrote:
>
> > Just to "weigh in" on the convergence issue. Michael
> > Herman has the best system I've seen to gather
> > priorities. He has participants vote via computer, which
> > weights a persons ten choices in rank order. When all are
> > done entering their picks, the software program quickly
> > tabulates the results, which can then be reported back to
> > the group before the closing circle begins.
> >
> > What I observed, when he did this at an educational OS in
> > Peoria last June, is that the politics were taken out of
> > the process. Having done the dots before, I feel that
> > in using the dot method, many people are influenced by
> > what they see their friends doing.
> >
> > Maybe Michael would be willing to say more about this.
> >
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> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 19:39:57 +0100
> From: "Pannwitz, Michael M" <mmpanne at snafu.de>
> Subject: Re: convergence with
>
> I like this, m, focus on what I, we will do.
> The other stuff is just data on priorities or whatever that we might
> get involved in.
> That also takes the politics out of it when action is not focused on
> things prioritised by the entire group but action is taken on things
> that people care about regardless of the priorities.
> Using dots, even the 55, Delphi Method, by the way, takes just
> minutes.
> Regardless of how many people or issues you have, it takes no more
> than 10 minutes to distribute the dots.
> The counting, even if there are 300 on a sheet and there are 50
> issuses to be counted also takes no more than ten minutes (volunteer
> participants do this simultaneously).
> Time has not been a restraint in this.
> mmp
>
>
> On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 11:56:52 -0600, Michael Herman wrote:
>
> >yep, we did that in peoria, but for sure it's not *mine*...
> >standard user's guide stuff and the tasc software that's
> >been around forever (relatively speaking) and before i
> >arrived.
> >
> >elsewhere... it seems all these weighing, voting, etc.
> >processes are asking what "should" we do. i find more and
> >more that i'm interested in what "will" we do. and that's
> >why i usually skip over the actual voting bit and reopen for
> >actions. the questions i usually use are "what else? (to
> >finish lingering discussions) and what next?" i like, too,
> >what harrison and some others mentioned at osonos this year,
> >something like "what is necessary to support this spirit,
> >action, work, project, whatever, going forward?" this lets
> >people do all that processing and sifting in their bodies
> >rather than in the computers. this seems what brian's
> >response of "what seems right for you" does, too.
> >
> >i think the voting and the reopening can work fine together,
> >as well. i'm not sure i've ever had the time available to
> >do both.
> >
> >m
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael M Pannwitz
> boscop
> Draisweg 1
> 12209 Berlin, Germany
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> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 22:05:09 +0100
> From: "Pannwitz, Michael M" <mmpanne at snafu.de>
> Subject: Facilitating the Whole System in the Room-Workshop with Marv and
Sandra in Berlin 2003
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> Dear open space colleagues around the world,
>
> one of the things people say about open space is "its simple
> but not easy".
>
> This holds true for open space as a method/design/structure but from
> my experience even more so for the
> work and role of the facilitator.
>
> Marvin Weisbord and Sandra Janoff (known for their work with future
> search) have crafted a training especially for the praxis of
> facilitation of large groups and the role of the facilitator.
>
> If you are interested to deepen your understanding and skill in
> assisting the unfolding of
> selforganisation/selfmanagement and the release of transformative
> energy in your role as facilitator (os, fs, ai and perhaps other
> approaches) this is probably just the perfect
> training for you. It definitely was for me. Not only did I notice a
> discernible shift in my approach but keep receiving feedback
> about the way I facilitate now (you were there but we hardly noticed
> you)...and best of all, I enjoy it more as
> I "work" less with the attitude of "Don't just do something, stand
> there".
>
> The complete registration stuff is now on my site where you can
> register electronically. You will also find a letter from Marv and
> Sandra that details the workshop and a flyer and, of course, a link
> to the wonderful site on a river island near Berlin, Germany.
> Go to
> http://www.michaelmpannwitz.de/fs_fws.htm
> for details.
>
> This is the only training in Europe in 2003.
> Spread the word, bring colleagues.
>
> Greetings from Berlin,
> mmp
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael M Pannwitz
> boscop
> Draisweg 1
> 12209 Berlin, Germany
> FON +49 - 30-772 8000 FAX +49 - 30-773 92 464
> www.michaelmpannwitz.de
>
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DEFAULT="SIZE">Dear open space colleagues around the world,<BR>
>
> <BR>
>
> one of the things people say about open space is "its simple<BR>
>
> but not easy".<BR>
>
> <BR>
>
> This holds true for open space as a method/design/structure but from my
experience even more so for the<BR>
>
> work and role of the facilitator. <BR>
>
> <BR>
>
> Marvin Weisbord and Sandra Janoff (known for their work with future
search) have crafted a training especially for the praxis of facilitation of
large groups and the role of the facilitator.<BR>
>
> <BR>
>
> If you are interested to deepen your understanding and skill in assisting
the unfolding of<BR>
>
> selforganisation/selfmanagement and the release of transformative<BR>
>
> energy in your role as facilitator (os, fs, ai and perhaps other
approaches) this is probably just the perfect<BR>
>
> training for you. It definitely was for me. Not only did I notice a<BR>
>
> discernible shift in my approach but keep receiving feedback<BR>
>
> about the way I facilitate now (you were there but we hardly noticed
you)...and best of all, I enjoy it more as<BR>
>
> I "work" less with the attitude of "Don't just do something, stand there".
<BR>
>
> <BR>
>
> The complete registration stuff is now on my site where you can<BR>
>
> register electronically. You will also find a letter from Marv and<BR>
>
> Sandra that details the workshop and a flyer and, of course, a link to the
wonderful site on a river island near Berlin, Germany.<BR>
>
> Go to<BR>
>
> <FONT COLOR=0000ff><U>http://www.michaelmpannwitz.de/fs_fws.htm<BR>
>
> <FONT COLOR=000000 DEFAULT="COLOR"></U>for details.<BR>
>
> <BR>
>
> This is the only training in Europe in 2003.<BR>
>
> Spread the word, bring colleagues.<BR>
>
> <BR>
>
> Greetings from Berlin,<BR>
>
> mmp<BR>
>
> <BR>
>
> <BR>
>
> <BR>
>
> <BR>
>
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> boscop<br>
> Draisweg 1<br>
> 12209 Berlin, Germany<br>
>
FON +49 - 30-772 8000 FAX&n
bsp;+49 - 30-773 92 464<br>
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> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:02:12 -0800
> From: Peggy Holman <peggy at opencirclecompany.com>
> Subject: Re: convergence with "stickie dots"
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> I feel compelled to add my 2 cents worth on this question of =
> convergence, because it is a question that's been near and dear to me =
> since my earliest exposure to OS. Voting just never felt right to me. =
> I also have a comment on the mathematics of dots just because.
>
>
> I've used Open Space for convergence for several years now and love it! =
> As both Michaels have already said, it is a clear reminder that action =
> comes from people taking responsibility for what they care about. =20
>
> I think a seminal conversation on convergence took place at OSonOS in =
> Toronto in 1997. I just pulled the paper copy of the proceedings to =
> look at a session called "'Day 3' of Open Space". (Day 3 was a short =
> hand for convergence.) Michael Herman, myself, Diane Gibeault, Jay =
> Vogt, Winston Kinch are some of the folks who were there that are on the =
> list. Here's a quote from the notes:
>
> >The Aha
> >The amazing realization we had was that synthesis [rather than voting =
> and prioritizing] can be acheived by doing an open space within the open =
> >space; with a little different theme. The Day 3 question is about =
> opening the space for action: what is possible now? It is bounded by =
> what is >real for us now. =20
> >
> >The Day 3 open space benefits from the time spent in divergence in =
> which truths were spoken, mooses are put on the table and perspectives =
> >shift. It reminds everyone that open space goes beyond the event and =
> is iterative (cyclic?) in nature. Day 3 done this way both grounds =
> people >in "what's next" and reminds them that the space is always =
> open."
>
>
> So, 6 years later, I think the seeds of this conversation have firmly =
> taken root.
>
>
>
> And for no other reason than my own need to share silly data, I knew =
> that there was a way of calculating the number of dots that I learned in =
> my Total Quality days. It takes 2 steps, but here it is:
>
> Round 1: everyone votes as many times as they want. =20
>
> Round 2: You keep only the items that receive half or more of the =
> votes. You take the items left and divide by 2. That's the number of =
> dots. =20
>
> As you can see, it's based on the number of items to be voted upon not =
> the number of participants. I wish I could remember the rationale. It =
> has something to do with adequate weight amongst multiple items so that =
> something that constitutes a consensus emerges.
>
> So, history and trivia...my gifts for the day!
>
> Peggy
>
>
> P.S. To Michael Pannwitz's invitation to Berlin. Go if you can! I =
> went to the future search workshop in Berlin several years ago that =
> Michael hosted and Marv and Sandra conducted. Silly for an American to =
> go so far to attend a workshop with Americans? I had the privilege of =
> getting a glimpse into another culture during the workshop as we used =
> the future of Berlin (slimly disguised as B-A-City) as our topic. With =
> East and West Germans, indeed, Eastern and Western Europeans there, it =
> was powerful. The workshop was also right before the Jewish holidays. =
> There was something about being there at that time of year for me that =
> was quite poignant. One evening, one of the other participants asked =
> me why I came. Three of us, a German, an Austrian and an American Jew =
> had a conversation about the Holocaust and speaking and being silent =
> that will be with me always. It is an experience well worth the travel. =
> Not to mention Michael is a WONDERFUL host!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Lisa Heft=20
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU=20
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 4:41 PM
> Subject: convergence with "stickie dots"
>
>
> Hello, all -
>
> =20
>
> When prioritization of key issues is part of the design in an Open =
> Space event, sometimes people post the original topic/issues signs (the =
> ones from the agenda wall) around the room. Participants either read =
> the hand-written notes placed under each topic (if a book of proceedings =
> has not been printed) or read in their books for an hour or so. Then =
> they place a colored adhesive dot on the "x" number of key issues (these =
> defined according to the design the facilitator creates with the client =
> -five things we can do on Monday, things we can do with no money, things =
> we want to move forward as hot issues to the so-and-so committee). Or =
> they can make a mark on the items they feel should be moved forward. Of =
> course there are other ways to see how the group feels about key issues, =
> such as reopening the space, creating affinity groups by standing by the =
> one issue they wish to champion, using voting software, etc.
>
> =20
>
> For the method using dots or marks, does anyone have a mathematical =
> formula for deciding how many dots each participant should be given for =
> a certain number of key issues as an outcome? For example - if you want =
> the group to highlight the 5 top issues for this group right now, how =
> many dots do you give each participant if you have 20 people, if you =
> have 200, etc. And maybe you don't need to show the 5 top issues, maybe =
> you need to show the whatever-rises-to-the-top issues - you won't limit =
> the number but will call anything that is clearly a majority of votes a =
> key issue. Does the math change?
>
> =20
>
> I'm writing a paper on convergence.ideally you'll see it on my future =
> website if I ever can sculpt it (the paper - the website's coming =
> closer) into a manageable shape.
>
> =20
>
> Thank you, dear colleagues,
>
> =20
>
> Lisa
>
> =20
>
> L i s a H e f t
>
> Consultant, facilitator, educator
>
> O p e n i n g S p a c e
>
> 2325 Oregon=20
>
> Berkeley, California
>
> 94705-1106 USA
>
> (+01) 510 548-8449
>
> lisaheft at pacbell.net
>
> (coming soon: www.openingspace.net)
>
> =20
>
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I feel compelled to add my 2 cents =
> worth on this=20
> question of convergence, because it is a question that's been near and =
> dear to=20
> me since my earliest exposure to OS. Voting just =
> never felt=20
> right to me. I also have a comment on the mathematics of dots just =
>
> because.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I've used Open Space for convergence =
> for several=20
> years now and love it! As both Michaels have already said, it is a =
> clear=20
> reminder that action comes from people taking responsibility for what =
> they care=20
> about. </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think a seminal conversation on =
> convergence took=20
> place at OSonOS in Toronto in 1997. I just pulled the paper copy =
> of the=20
> proceedings to look at a session called "'Day 3' of Open =
> Space". (Day=20
> 3 was a short hand for convergence.) Michael Herman, myself, Diane =
>
> Gibeault, Jay Vogt, Winston Kinch are some of the folks who were =
> there that=20
> are on the list. Here's a quote from the notes:</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>The Aha</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>The amazing realization we had was =
> that=20
> synthesis [rather than voting and prioritizing] can be acheived by doing =
> an open=20
> space within the open >space; with a little different theme. =
> The Day 3=20
> question is about opening the space for action: what is possible =
> now? It=20
> is bounded by what is >real for us now. </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>The Day 3 open space benefits from =
> the time=20
> spent in divergence in which truths were spoken, mooses are put on the =
> table and=20
> perspectives >shift. It reminds everyone that open space goes =
> beyond=20
> the event and is iterative (cyclic?) in nature. Day 3 done this =
> way both=20
> grounds people >in "what's next" and reminds them that the space is =
> always=20
> open."</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So, 6 years later, I think the seeds of =
> this=20
> conversation have firmly taken root.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And for no other reason than my own =
> need to share=20
> silly data, I knew that there was a way of calculating the number of =
> dots that I=20
> learned in my Total Quality days. It takes 2 steps, but here it=20
> is:</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Round 1: everyone votes as many =
> times as they=20
> want. </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Round 2: You keep only the items =
> that receive=20
> half or more of the votes. You take the items left and divide =
> by=20
> 2. That's the number of dots. </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As you can see, it's based on the =
> number of items=20
> to be voted upon not the number of participants. I wish I could =
> remember=20
> the rationale. It has something to do with adequate weight amongst =
>
> multiple items so that something that constitutes a consensus=20
> emerges.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>So, history and trivia...my gifts for =
> the=20
> day!</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Peggy</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>P.S. To Michael Pannwitz's =
> invitation to=20
> Berlin. Go if you can! I went to the future search =
> workshop in=20
> Berlin several years ago that Michael hosted and Marv and Sandra=20
> conducted. Silly for an American to go so far to attend a workshop =
> with=20
> Americans? I had the privilege of getting a glimpse into =
> another=20
> culture during the workshop as we used the future of Berlin (slimly =
> disguised as=20
> B-A-City) as our topic. With East and West Germans, indeed, =
> Eastern and=20
> Western Europeans there, it was powerful. The =
> workshop was also=20
> right before the Jewish holidays. There was something about being =
> there at=20
> that time of year for me that was quite poignant. One =
> evening, one=20
> of the other participants asked me why I came. Three of us, a =
> German,=20
> an Austrian and an American Jew had a conversation about the Holocaust =
> and=20
> speaking and being silent that will be with me always. It is =
> an=20
> experience well worth the travel. Not to mention Michael is a =
> WONDERFUL=20
> host!</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> <DIV=20
> style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>From:</B>=20
> <A title=3Dlisaheft at PACBELL.NET =
> href=3D"mailto:lisaheft at PACBELL.NET">Lisa Heft</A>=20
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
> title=3DOSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU=20
> =
> href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE=
> .EDU</A>=20
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 05, 2003 =
> 4:41=20
> PM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> convergence with =
> "stickie=20
> dots"</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV class=3DSection1>
> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20
> style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">Hello, all=20
> =96<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20
> style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =
> MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20
> style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">When =
> prioritization of=20
> key issues is part of the design in an Open Space event, sometimes =
> people post=20
> the original topic/issues signs (the ones from the agenda wall) around =
> the=20
> room.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Participants =
> either read=20
> the hand-written notes placed under each topic (if a book of =
> proceedings has=20
> not been printed) or read in their books for an hour or so. <SPAN=20
> style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Then they place a colored =
> adhesive dot=20
> on the =93x=94 number of key issues (these defined according to the =
> design the=20
> facilitator creates with the client =96five things we can do on =
> Monday, things=20
> we can do with no money, <SPAN class=3DGramE>things</SPAN> we want to =
> move=20
> forward as hot issues to the so-and-so committee). <SPAN=20
> style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Or they can make a mark on =
> the items=20
> they feel should be moved forward.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
> yes"> =20
> </SPAN>Of course there are other ways to see how the group feels about =
> key=20
> issues, such as reopening the space, creating affinity groups by =
> standing by=20
> the one issue they wish to champion, using voting software,=20
> etc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20
> style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =
> MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20
> style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">For the method =
> using dots=20
> or marks, does anyone have a mathematical formula for deciding how =
> many dots=20
> each participant should be given for a certain number of key issues as =
> an=20
> outcome?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>For example =
> =96 if you=20
> want the group to highlight the 5 top issues for this group right now, =
> how=20
> many dots do you give each participant if you have 20 people, if you =
> have 200,=20
> <SPAN class=3DGramE>etc.</SPAN> <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
> yes"> </SPAN>And=20
> maybe you don=92t need to show the 5 top issues, maybe you need to =
> show the=20
> whatever-rises-to-the-top issues =96 you won=92t limit the number but =
> will call=20
> anything that is clearly a majority of votes a key issue. <SPAN=20
> style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Does the math=20
> change?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20
> style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =
> MS'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20
> style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">I=92m writing a =
> paper on=20
> convergence=85ideally you=92ll see it on my future website if I ever =
> can sculpt it=20
> (the paper =96 the website=92s coming closer) into a manageable=20
> shape=85<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20
> style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =
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> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20
> style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet MS'">Thank you, dear =
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> colleagues,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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> style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Trebuchet =
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> <P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Trebuchet MS" size=3D2><SPAN=20
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> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 18:06:23 -0800
> From: Elwin and Joan <elwinandjoan at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: convergence with "stickie dots"
>
> --- Peggy Holman <peggy at opencirclecompany.com> wrote:
> >Voting just never felt right to me.
>
> I totally agree with Peggy's statement that is the way I've always
> felt. Now that she shared the Day3 notes from "OSonOS in Toronto in
> 1997" I know why!!
>
> Thanks Peggy
>
> Elwin Guild
> Baltimore
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> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 19:47:16 -0800
> From: Lisa Heft <lisaheft at pacbell.net>
> Subject: Glossary of Terms
>
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> Hello dear colleagues -
>
> I am building a glossary of terms for Open Space / Open Space
> Technology. I will make this available for your reading pleasure and
> your usage on my (soon, soon) website.
>
> I am building this list in English, which is my home language. Some of
> these terms are very American, and you can help me by sharing with me
> other words which are used in the English or other regions - and you can
> also send me the words in your other home languages so I can list them,
> too in the glossary. I imagine that this might also help readers of the
> Users Guide who may be reading the English version when English is not
> their first language. When I mean translation, please note that I mean
> not literal translation of each word, but a cultural translation
> capturing the nuance of these concepts or describing these items in ways
> that your country's culture will understand - no need to teach people a
> new vocabulary when we can describe each word in ways people will
> understand through their own cultures and codes. And I know this will
> be very regional in many cases - for example someone from Mexico may say
> something in a different way than someone from (hi, Jaime) Peru or
> Bolivia.
>
> For you English speakers, I do want to find definitions in English for
> each of these words - let us not assume that those in other communities
> of practice know what our words mean.
>
> Because it is a glossary, and because I will attempt to put all
> languages you send me into this glossary, please try to give me a phrase
> or a sentence and not a paragraph for each word.
>
> It's an interesting puzzle. Who wants to play? And: any words I'm
> missing.?
>
> Agenda wall
> Book of proceedings (also known as proceedings)
> Breaking news
> Breakout spaces (also known as Discussion areas)
> Bulletin board
> bumblebees
> butterflies
> Chaos theory
> client (often known as sponsor, host)
> closing circle
> Coffee break
> Community bulletin board
> Community marketplace (also known as marketplace)
> Complexity theory
> convenor
> convenor responsibility form (also known as notestaker forms)
> convergence
> Easel pad, paper (also known as flip chart pad, paper)
> evening news
> facilitator (also known as practitioner)
> Four principles (also known as principles)
> griefwork
> grid (also known as matrix)
> Harrison Owen
> holding space
> invitation
> issue (also known as topic)
> Law of two feet (also known as the one Law)
> marker
> masking tape
> matrix (also known as grid or space/time matrix)
> Medicine wheel
> morning announcements
> News room
> Non-convergence
> now
> Open Space Institutes
> Open Space on Open Space (also known as OSonOS)
> Open Space Technology (also referred to as Open Space)
> OSLIST
> passion
> post-its
> responsibility
> session
> Space invaders
> Systems theory
> Talking stick
> theme
> User's guide
>
> Thank you, you wonderful word crafters,
>
> Lisa
>
> L i s a H e f t
> Consultant, facilitator, educator
> O p e n i n g S p a c e
> 2325 Oregon
> Berkeley, California
> 94705-1106 USA
> (+01) 510 548-8449
> lisaheft at pacbell.net
> (coming soon: www.openingspace.net)
>
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> <div class=3DSection1><pre><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Hello dear =
> colleagues –<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
> MS"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>I am building a =
> glossary of terms for Open Space / Open Space Technology. <span =
> style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I will make this available for =
> your reading pleasure and your usage on my (soon, soon) =
> website.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
> MS"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>I am building this =
> list in English, which is my home language.<span =
> style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Some of these terms are very =
> American, and you can help me by sharing with me other words which are =
> used in the English or other regions – and you can also send me =
> the words in your other home languages so I can list them, too in the =
> glossary. <span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I imagine that =
> this might also help readers of the Users Guide who may be reading the =
> English version when English is not their first language.<span =
> style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>When I mean translation, please =
> note that I mean not literal translation of each word, but a cultural =
> translation capturing the nuance of these concepts or describing these =
> items in ways that your country’s culture will understand – =
> no need to teach people a new vocabulary when we can describe each word =
> in ways people will understand through their own cultures and codes. =
> <span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>And I know this will be =
> very regional in many cases – for example someone from Mexico may =
> say something in a different way than someone from (hi, Jaime) Peru or =
> Bolivia.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
> MS"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>For you English =
> speakers, I do want to find definitions in English for each of these =
> words – let us not assume that those in other communities of =
> practice know what our words mean. <span =
> style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><p=
> re><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
> MS"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Because it is a =
> glossary, and because I will attempt to put all languages you send me =
> into this glossary, please try to give me a phrase or a sentence and not =
> a paragraph for each word.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
> MS"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>It’s an =
> interesting puzzle.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Who =
> wants to play?<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>And: any =
> words I’m missing…?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
> MS"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Agenda wall<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Book of =
> proceedings (also known as =
> proceedings)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Breaking news<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Breakout =
> spaces<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> </span> =
> (also known as Discussion =
> areas)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Bulletin =
> board<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>bumblebees</span></font></span><font
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>butterflies</span></font></span><font
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Chaos theory<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>client</span></font></span><font =
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><span =
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> =
> </span>(often known as sponsor, =
> host)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>closing</span></font></span><font
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> =
> circle<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Coffee break<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Community bulletin =
> board<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Community =
> marketplace<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; </span>(also known as =
> marketplace)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Complexity =
> theory<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DSpellE><span class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet =
> MS"><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
> MS"'>convenor</span></font></span></span><font
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DSpellE><span class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet =
> MS"><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
> MS"'>convenor</span></font></span></span><font
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> =
> responsibility form <span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>(also =
> known as <span
> class=3DSpellE>notestaker</span> =
> forms)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>convergence</span></font></span><font
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Easel pad, paper =
> (also known as flip chart pad, =
> paper)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>evening</span></font></span><font
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> =
> news<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>facilitator</span></font></span><font
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> (also =
> known as practitioner)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Four =
> principles<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; </span> (also known as =
> principles)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DSpellE><span class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet =
> MS"><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
> MS"'>griefwork</span></font></span></span><font
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>grid</span></font></span><font =
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><span =
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; </span>(also known as =
> matrix)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><st1:PersonName><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Harrison =
> Owen</span></font></st1:PersonName><font
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><span =
> style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>holding</span></font></span><font
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> =
> space<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>invitation</span></font></span><font
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>issue</span></font></span><font =
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><span =
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> =
> </span>(also known as topic)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Law of two =
> feet<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> =
> </span> (also known as the one =
> Law)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>marker</span></font></span><font =
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><span =
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>masking</span></font></span><font
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> =
> tape<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>matrix</span></font></span><font =
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><span =
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> </span>(also =
> known as grid or space/time =
> matrix)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Medicine =
> wheel<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>morning</span></font></span><font
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'> =
> announcements<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>News room<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet =
> MS"'>Non-convergence<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>now</span></font></span><font =
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><span =
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Open Space =
> Institutes<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Open Space on Open =
> <span
> class=3DGramE>Space<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'> =
> </span>(</span>also known as <span
> class=3DSpellE>OSonOS</span>)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font =
> size=3D2
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Open Space =
> Technology<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; </span>(also referred to as Open =
> Space)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>OSLIST<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> </span><span =
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:
> 1'> &nbs=
> p; </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>passion</span></font></span><font
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>post-its</span></font></span><font
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>responsibility</span></font></span><font
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>session</span></font></span><font
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Space =
> invaders<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Systems =
> theory<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>Talking stick<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
> class=3DGramE><font size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
> font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>theme</span></font></span><font =
> face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span
> style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'><span =
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'> =
> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
> size=3D2 face=3D"Trebuchet MS"><span =
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>User’s =
> guide<span
> style=3D'mso-tab-count:1'>  =
> ; </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
>
> <p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 08:25:09 +1100
> From: Fr Brian S Bainbridge <briansb at mira.net>
> Subject: Re: convergence with
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> You know, I have a hunch that the "politics" of a situation are really
very important. So, if participants feel they have to
> take that into account, surely that is the right way without which no
going forward is likely to happen.
> As space-holder, I sense I have no right to impose a "neutral"
dimensioning, and if I do, then I am perhaps rendering the
> on-going action sterile. We live in an environment. Always. Hence my
"whatever seems right to you" model for what might
> emerge either as a priority or as an action
plan/intention/outcome/will-do.
> My two-pennyworth.
> Cheers and blessings, BRIAN.
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> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 07:48:45 +0200
> From: WB-TrainingConsultingDevelopment <wb-trainconsult at gmx.net>
> Subject: Re: convergence with "stickie dots"
>
> Hi Penny,
>
> no direct answer, but related.
>
> I used the sticke dots techniques as a standard technique not only for
ost-convergence processes very often in "new democracies" where people are
especially sensible for how "voting processes" are (ab)used, e.g. Bulgaria,
Cape Verde, Mosambique.
> Very often the participants insisted to make anonymos "votes" (e.g. by
turning around the flip-charts, by voting then one-by-one) and did not like
the public dot giving at all. Their argument was, that it is evident, that
there is a strong influence by opinion leaders exerted to those who do not
feel so strong. So the latter have to be protected from the former.
>
> Even when I tried to clear, that prioritizing, visualizing the actual
situation etc. is not exactly voting, they still saw that influence thing
going. I learnt to take care for such "sensibilities"
>
> Bernd
>
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:16:49 -0800, Penny Scott wrote:
> hi joelle,
>
> i have a question about convergence in os using these dots; do context and
> situation have any bearing on how people vote using this method? or put
> another way...can there be a peer pressure factor? the reason i'm asking
is
> because i was in a meeting this week -- not os -- where we used sticky
dots
> to converge on a large number of strategic goals the group had
brainstormed
> and felt were important. toward the end of the stickydot-placing-frenzy,
it
> seemed to me that people were looking around and making assessments as to
> where their dots would have the most weight. it seemed to lose purity at
> that point. the process became more political for sure.
>
> any thoughts? Penny
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joelle Lyons Everett <JLEShelton at aol.com>
> To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:51 PM
> Subject: Re: convergence with "stickie dots"
>
>
> > Lisa--
> >
> > This is a question I have wondered about also--but I am not a
> mathematician.
> >
> > One phenomenon that I have observed with almost any method of
convergence
> is
> > that a handful of ideas generally come to the top. Don't know whether
> this
> > is a mathematical phenomenon or a reflection of underlying agreement in
> the
> > group, which may have been invisible up to this point. Seems like it
> might
> > be related to the fact that the same conversation often goes on in
several
> > breakout sessions, regardless of the posted session topic.
> >
> > There are a lot of things in group dynamics which I can observe but not
> > explain. And I hope someone has a mathematical formula for deciding how
> many
> > dots to give out.
> >
> > Joelle
> >
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> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 07:50:30 +0200
> From: WB-TrainingConsultingDevelopment <wb-trainconsult at gmx.net>
> Subject: Re: convergence with "stickie dots"
>
> Joelle,
> one thing is for shure. It has nothing to do with mathematics (if you do
not use strange mathematical techniques of giving extra-weight to slightly
stronger items).
>
> Bernd
>
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:51:48 EST, Joelle Lyons Everett wrote:
> Lisa--
>
> This is a question I have wondered about also--but I am not a
mathematician.
>
> One phenomenon that I have observed with almost any method of convergence
is
> that a handful of ideas generally come to the top. Don't know whether
this
> is a mathematical phenomenon or a reflection of underlying agreement in
the
> group, which may have been invisible up to this point. Seems like it
might
> be related to the fact that the same conversation often goes on in several
> breakout sessions, regardless of the posted session topic.
>
> There are a lot of things in group dynamics which I can observe but not
> explain. And I hope someone has a mathematical formula for deciding how
many
> dots to give out.
>
> Joelle
>
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> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 08:35:47 +0200
> From: WB-TrainingConsultingDevelopment <wb-trainconsult at gmx.net>
> Subject: Re: convergence with "stickie dots"
>
> Bernd
> I just read my own posting.
> The way I put it, it seems to be quite wrong.
> Much too generally formulated
> Sorry
> Bernd
>
> On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 07:50:30 +0200, WB-TrainingConsultingDevelopment wrote:
> Joelle,
> one thing is for shure. It has nothing to do with mathematics (if you do
not use strange mathematical techniques of giving extra-weight to slightly
stronger items).
>
> Bernd
>
> On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:51:48 EST, Joelle Lyons Everett wrote:
> Lisa--
>
> This is a question I have wondered about also--but I am not a
mathematician.
>
> One phenomenon that I have observed with almost any method of convergence
is
> that a handful of ideas generally come to the top. Don't know whether
this
> is a mathematical phenomenon or a reflection of underlying agreement in
the
> group, which may have been invisible up to this point. Seems like it
might
> be related to the fact that the same conversation often goes on in several
> breakout sessions, regardless of the posted session topic.
>
> There are a lot of things in group dynamics which I can observe but not
> explain. And I hope someone has a mathematical formula for deciding how
many
> dots to give out.
>
> Joelle
>
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