everything WE know about ost...

Thu Jun 19 09:33:51 PDT 2003

hello michael,

i wasn't there in monterey, so it's news to me that this discussion was
continued there, but it did most definitely also occur, the NGO thing
and the world and the rest, with a small group of us in a little
conference room on the last day of the toronto event on the first
"international day" that we ever tacked on to the osonos conference.

and yes, whatever did happen to that little initiative?  didn't we get
buried by UN paperwork... or we thought we had some contacts there that
turned out to be not so connected after all...

funny too how these things percolate for a number of years before they
get born.  whenever it starts is the right time can take quite a while
on a worldwide scale.

thanks for the additions to the tale!

m

Pannwitz, Michael M wrote:

> Thanks Michael H in Chicago for telling the tale.
> To me its important to listen to that tale because I feel how it
> evokes Spirit in our community.
> One thing about tales and story tellers is that the stories told are
> always true and never true, thats why they are stories and why I love
> them.
> So, here is one detail, that is part of the story as I see it:
> It was in Monterey, not in Toronto (which is also a wonderful place),
> at the OSonOS in 1998 (is that true ?), Harrison was tending to what
> he called the "Berlin Flue" (he had been to a training in Berlin where
> he drank a lot of beer), Birgitt and some others were struggling with
> bandits stealing os, Ralph removed some material people had put in the
> circle, I clashed with a colleague, well, it was high-spirited.
> In all that we were thinking about global, international, planetary
> (either the Canadians or the Australians or others didnt like those
> terms as smacking of US-Imperialism or some other such -ism) for what
> we were perceiving as emerging.
> As someone said "Why dont we call it world-wide" the discussion sort
> of subsided and as we were looking out over the Pacific Ocean just
> outside of our spacious meeting room a huge, bright double rainbow
> appeared.
> Well, that did it and thats how it was decided to call the thing
> "world-wide".
> Someone actually tried to get that something organized and registered
> as an NGO at the United Nations...hey, what ever became of that
> initiative?
> Greetings from Berlin a week before the berlin open space on open
> space for which 51 colleagues have signed up...seems this is one of
> those centres in the worldwideopenspace-community...
> mmp
>
> On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 02:55:11 -0500, Michael Herman wrote:
>
> >Birgitt Williams wrote:
> >
> >>thank you for assisting me in my edits on www.openspaceworld.com Your
> >>generosity with that site and with your time is a wonderful gift and
> I thank
> >>you. I spent several hours today going over the materials, imagining
> what
> >>could be added, and also thinking that it would be so good if all
> content
> >>rich conversations on this list were on that site in the way that
> you have
> >>pulled a few tidbits from the list. In some ways, active
> participation on
> >>that site could replace this OS List and the wisdom shared would be
> easily
> >>accessible to all newcomers to OST.
> >>
> >>I was excited to see a spot for "research" and there is a good beginning
> >>there but I know there are so many more papers that have been done.
> We truly
> >>have had a lack of a space to pull the research together and I very much
> >>hope that you all will go into your files and contribute any and all
> bits of
> >>research about OST and its uses.
> >>
> >>
> >> And, whenever Michael gives the go ahead to add to these read only
> >> pages that are like his "givens", I will offer my viewpoint on that
> >> site, which as you know is often an alternative.
> >
> >
> >----
> >
> >
> >Well, well, well... hello again, Birgitt and everyone... all this
> >website talk is happening a bit faster than expected and not exactly
> >according to the plan <grin> as ever, be prepared to be surprised!
> >
> >so it seems from this and other messages of late, that there is some
> >real energy wanting to rush into the websites. yes, websites, as in
> >more than one. taking a page from Michael Pannwitz, i'd like to take
> >three minutes just before this opening, in sponsor-sort of role here, to
> >share a bit of the story of how we have got to this opening moment. i
> >hope my invitation/opening colleagues will forgive a bit of rambling
> >here before we launch the invitation proper. let's have a look around
> >the circle...
> >
> >
> >IN THE BEGINNING
> >
> >...there was the web... and then the open space institute usa. and then
> >they came together as the OSI-USA website, thanks in large part to the
> >work of Peggy Holman and some others whose names i am sorry to be
> >missing just now.
> >
> >
> >GOING GLOBAL
> >
> >then Barry Owen got to thinking there should be a Global Open Space
> >Institute and he created a massive website with much content and support
> >from you, Birgitt.
> >
> >at OSONOS 5 in toronto, a number of us concluded that we wanted to be
> >about the World rather than about the Globe. shortly thereafter, I
> >created OpenSpaceWorld.ORG with good company from Barry and Peggy.
> >early in it's life, osw.ORG incorporated the UBB software discovered by
> >Koos de Heer, who helped maintain it along the way and continues to lurk
> >and tidy little things. fully present and totally invisible!
> >
> >
> >ALONG THE WAY...
> >
> >Joelle Everett, Brian Bainbridge and Sharon Quarrington have created OSI
> >newsletters and shared the content of those on the webstie.
> >
> >as for research, i should note that Leon DeKing first raised that
> >question (to the best of my recollection) at OSONOS in toronto. there
> >has been a research section of the website ever since osw.ORG was
> >created and still, as you note, only a few of the many papers that must
> >exist have been noted there. it would be nice to have more of them
> >listed on the current version of the research page.
> >
> >
> >SPEAKING IN TONGUES
> >
> >then there are the languages. i can't begin to list all of those who
> >have translated materials since Artur deSilva started his campaign after
> >OSONOS in Berlin. Artur had something to do with Portuguese and at
> >least one other language. Diane Gibeault did a number of French pieces,
> >i know. Tova did Hebrew. Gerard Muller did Danish and Dutch. Michael
> >Pannwitz did the German. John Engle the Haitian Creole. i think Laura
> >Herrera did the Spanish. and my apologies to those i've left out, who
> >are several.
> >
> >
> >GETTING WIKI
> >
> >late last year, i began migrating the best of what was gathered in the
> >bulletin board space into the new wiki space. Chris Corrigan provided
> >invaluable help with that, just as i was totally running out of steam.
> > Peggy and some others have helped out too, as have a number of others
> >around the world who have posted their own contact info, soundbites,
> >websites, etc. Chris and Gabriela Ender and some others had a good go
> >of OSONOS online this past year, too.
> >
> >the OSI Board, which currently includes Peggy, Leon, myself, Lisa Heft,
> >John Engle, Gabriel Shirley, and David Koehler has been actively
> >discussing the shape and future of the osw.ORG website for the last
> >several months. we have considered readability, formatting, content,
> >access and a number of other issues. i joined the board only this year,
> >specifically to access their insights and energies for the sites, and
> >the support i've received has been just great. thanks board!
> >
> >
> >THE OPEN SPACE WORLD .NETwork!
> >
> >finally, i should mention that somewhere along the way, Harrison created
> >(in his usual mix of infinite wisdom and accidental genius) a site
> >called OpenSpaceWorld.COM... even as his books continue to refer people
> >to our .ORG site. what he did by accidently selecting the .COM version
> >of the .ORG site we'd already established... was to set up the obvious
> >next step to <drumroll> .NET!
> >
> >for those of you familiar with the game Parker Brothers game called
> >"Monopoly!" you will notice that we now own ALL the OpenSpaceWorld
> >properties and are now allowed to start building houses and hotels!
> ><grin> but i digress...
> >
> >we registered the .NET name a few months ago and part of what the OSI
> >board has been considering and what i have been spending time building
> >out the most basic frames for is this new .NET space. it was only in
> >the last few days that we have finalized our work on the invitation to
> >that online open space. this is the invitation i referred to earlier
> today.
> >
> >
> >HOW WE GO FROM HERE
> >
> >first we will launch that invite. we will welcome the passion and
> >responsibility of all those who are willing to help us give shape and
> >life to this new space. we will do this work online, in that space, and
> >in the process we will build the skills and connections needed to
> >maintain that space. and then, this online space holding community can
> >apply its wiki wisdom and open space sensitivity to the care and feeding
> >of the .ORG site.
> >
> >having spent the time to get the .NET space up and running, i am glad to
> >see more and more interest and energy for our working together online.
> > the forthcoming invitation will say much more specifically what and how
> >and why about this new space. and the momentum and connections and
> >learnings we make in the development of that site will be tremendously
> >important as we then address what the .ORG site should be and become.
> >
> >
> >KEEPING ON AND STAYING TUNED
> >
> >of course, we can continue to post all kinds of contact information,
> >stories, quotes, research, links and the rest into the .ORG site (as
> >it's currently configured) while the .NET site is taking shape, but the
> >larger structural and philosophy questions will not really be answerable
> >until we figure out what the .NET space is all about.
> >
> >so, stay tuned to the list here for the invitation to .NET... we've just
> >got to give the room one more scan to make sure that we haven't
> >forgotten the tape or the markers or any of our favorite posters... the
> >OpenSpaceWorld.NETwork is about to get born!
> >
> >thanks to everyone who's been a part of the last many years of
> >developing .ORG, i know and regret that there are people i've missed
> >naming here. even so, i hope you will join us in the development and
> >use of the new .NET space... please stay tuned...
> >
> >'til soon, michael
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >Michael Herman
> >Michael Herman Associates
> >300 West North Avenue #1105
> >Chicago IL 60610 USA
> >(312) 280-7838
> >
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