development programs

Thu Jan 2 06:44:40 PST 2003

For all of you; a peace and joyfull 2003

Since OsonOs in Australia I spoke and speak with many people of Open
Space....

We are now discussing to use Open Space to create a deveopment programma for
al the 25 Human Resource Managers of a very big dutch firm. We are thinking
of a two day Open Space, the first day we invite also other staf members,
managers and other significant others. The second day, or a part of it, we
ask the HR managers to make action plans for their own or collective
program.

Everybody is enthousiastic except for ... the CEO.....

Does any of you have any experience with Open Space in development/
education programs for staf members?
(I know of Larry's Open Space at Hawai).

I let you know how this story goes on....

love and sunshine

Carla Vliex

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>
> drs. Carla J.P. Vliex
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> From:         Elena A. Marchuk[SMTP:marco at mail.nsk.ru]
> Reply To:     OSLIST
> Sent:         Thursday, 19 December, 2002 08:10
> To:   OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject:      Re: Reviving a Facilitator's Passion
>
> Dear Martin and all interested and helping...
>
> I know the feeling and I wrote you about this, when the process is ...
> dieing...
> so I have to think over the questions many of you sent me and decided,
> that
> it was true, no big inspiration, though some, but a good chance for
> showing
> 'democratic' way of doing things in OS...
> so it worked as the only way it could, and there were the results people
> were ready to achieve, so .. .it worked,
>
> but now, reding Martin's poster I'm reviewing the OS I just came from,
> where
> I facilitated the group of "Open World" Program of US Library of Congress
> (those who visited US in search for your way of doing things in market
> economy several years ago). IREX does try to keep follow-ups for them and
> gather them for some workshops
>
> but they are from different industries, sphares of business and social
> lives
>
> this is the most difficult cast to facilitate, when the topic is a sort of
> general, no passion in the group and no common interests
>
> even when in the case of Martin there should be some, it is still more
> 'theoretical' then passionate
>
> is it?
>
> the mixed group are really hard to motivate, when they have no idea for
> the
> possible results,
>
> but
>
> or
>
> and
>
> the group in Yakutsk (that is nearly the Polar circle in Russia, though
> much
> souther), in - 34 C cold weather did show up. there were about 40 people
> and
> they came for a topic "From team to effective organization". don't ask me
> what the organizers mean by this and me, agreeing to do this, but I
> thought
> it could be the same question for people who will come, when interested,
> or
> inspired.
>
> this time we had time from 10 am to 4 pm. so we had ful 3 sessions of 1
> hour - 2 before a half hour lunch and one - after with some time to type
> the
> reports and an hour for closing session which was nearly the same ful and
> very much attentive listening, though we had constructers, medical people.
> touristic companies, educators and a lot of mix, including Rotary
> members...
>
> they said that THAT NEVER WORK SO HARD ON THEIR WORKING PLACES
> and that
> I (!) OVERLOADED THEM!
>
> they really had a good conversation learning from each other and from
> different sphares of work, how people do the work with people. there were
> recruiting questions, inspiration and punishment and a lot of special
> questions - 19 of them but
>
> they enjoyed the whole process, being very simple and goodwilling which
> they
> rearly met and some said that they expect the siting and listening and
> even
> took some papers with them... to read, what they couldn't do ofcourse...
> so
> it was good communication, which everybody mentioned and a lot of findings
> for them - new people, new telephones, new partners, new ideas and warmth
> of
> people in the cold weather
>
> So thank you for sharing your thoughts, I see it took you 2 weeks to come
> to
> this, and may be there should be some more in the topic for gathering.
> like
> new program... or whatever the sponsors could want. do you think?
>
> organizers did think that the best time for people should be Saterday...
> so
> they would not run to their offices and so on, but the other thing was
> that
> in such a cold weather people would prefer to stay at home near their TVs
> and beds...
>
> but they did come and said. that they were LIKE IN AMERICA! as the process
> was very democratic but intensive and overloading
>
> OK - my two sents, though a little bigger then nessessary, may be...
>
> BEST WISHES TO YOU
>
> take care
>
> Elena Marchuk from Siberia, Novosibirsk, Russia
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin Giannini" <mlg2010 at yahoo.com>
> To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 3:02 AM
> Subject: Reviving a Facilitator's Passion
>
>
> > Dear 'Spacers':
> >
> > I facilitated two weeks ago for an Irish (community - government
> > Partnership) organisation trying to discover from community members what
> > their adult education needs are.  The attendance was good but no one
> wanted
> > to post for the afternoon.  After lunch, half of the folks left and the
> > rest just wanted to re-hash what had happened in the groups during the
> > morning.  So they did.  I felt that what ensued was a lot of
> > bickering.  And I could not help to feel that as facilitator, I was
> being
> > expected to "produce" a lot more, to get people " on task"... you
> know...
> > that whole dilemma.  Nonetheless, the closing circle was filled with
> praise
> > for the process.  And yet I was disappointed and disenchanted.
> >
> > So i ask....   How do I get over this and on to the next one with more
> of
> > my own passion intact?  And how do I respond to the sponsor who has
> indeed
> > come back with reservations about the whole thing since she really could
> > not produce much of a "result" out of her findings?
> >
> > Argh!  Thanks for listening!  Happy Joyous Holidays!!!
> >
> > Marty Giannini in Ravensdale, Co. Louth, Ireland
> >
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