Already-thereness, Empowerment and Such (this is a really long reply...omigod it's a thesis)

[Joelle Lyons Everett]

Bernd--

I always appreciate the deep discernment which you bring to a discussion!

Thanks for the reminder that metaphors from one field to another are
evocative, not causal.  They may lead us in valuable new directions, but
cannot be givens.  Did I hear you accurately?

You wrote: << In that last point I am with Artur
when I am in my everyday critical reflective mood/trance
(like now and here) probably because of my training as physicist,
but seem to be with Harrison, Chris...
when I am in meditation, or having my rattle-voyages
and so getting into spriritual trance >>

I believe that you have described two distinct states of consciousness, both
natural to human beings and both important--and the world looks very
different from inside each of these states.  I guess my challenge is to
expand myself to where I can some way hold these two states within my one
self.

Joelle

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