OSonOS in Swenmark

Sun Aug 24 21:08:54 PDT 2003

yes, i will agree with artur.  i've been posting notes online from
osonos since 1999, from afar and from the event itself.  this feels
different.  i like it too.  have a look if you like.  michael

Artur Ferreira da Silva wrote:

> At 13:36 24-08-2003 +0200, Thomas Herrmann wrote:
>
>> Dear friends in Open Space
>> OSonOS in Swenmark is going on well. Issues have been posted and
>> proceedings
>> have and are being written. The OSonOS online café is also busy. You are
>> most welcome to join in at
>> http://www.openspaceworld.org/network/wiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark
>
>
> I would like to reinforce Thomas' message.
>
> I have been in some online Conferences and  tried to follow online some
> real Conferences that had also an online component. I always had very bad
> feelings.
>
> This is the first time that I can feel what's happening there and even
> "participate"!!!
>
> As it is very easy, please don't fell WIKI'd out.
>
> You can just browse there as in any other site. If you go there often you
> can see things happening (being added, I mean).
>
> And if you want to intervene in any page, just click on "Edit tex of this
> page" (bottom left), write your comment in the appropriate place, and then
> click in the "Save" button (also close to the left bottom). And that's it!
>
> See you there
>
> Artur
>
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>From  Sun Aug 24 22:00:12 2003
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Doug:

At OSonOS IX in Vancouver Laurel Doersam convened a session called
"Space Invaders: Do they exist?"  That conversation did much to shape my
thinking on "space invaders" to the point where I hardly use the term
nowadays.

For your edification, I post the summary of discussions from that
session:

Space Invaders: do they exist?

Convener: Laurel Doersam

Participants: Chris Corrigan, Mogens Rasmussen, Rick Nathorst, Gabriel
Shirley, Viv Waters

*       Value judgment implicit in the label "Space Invader"
*       Could the SI be providing a valuable function by stirring up a
little chaos?
*       Much of the discomfort of the SI situation may come from within
the facilitator - maybe
*       the only real space invader comes from within
*       Stories about Space Invaders provided much lively conversation
about what (if any) level of facilitator intervention is appropriate.
*       Chris suggested that the notion of SI's may be more tied to the
givens of a particular event than to the OS or the facilitator
*       Rick suggested that there might be value in shifting our
perception of the SI, that perhaps they could be in some ways "space
illuminators" or "space enrichers"
*       The notion of a space invader robbing other participants of
power was discussed - but what occurs to me as I type this is that the
facilitator also can rob the participants of power by assuming they are
helpless to deal with any invasion they may perceive on their own
initiative - when the facilitator feels the need to "rescue", he/she
robs participants of their power
*       The law of two feet gives all participants the power to deal
with any situation that might arise - by NOT using this power/freedom to
use their two feet, the participants allow the invasion to occur - the
energy is not robbed from the participants, but freely given to the SI.
*       Sometimes the SI provides a "pattern interrupt" that allows
everyone to re-evaluate their assumptions or allows folks to speak their
truth clearly.

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> D. Germann, Sr.
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> Subject: Do we open space or...
>
> Julie--
>
> I'm glad one of us knows what I was trying to say! You got it, Julie!
>
> For me the question gets beyond the issue of free will: If we believe
we
> have an effective SwiftlySwirling SlowlySprialing Source (I love that
> phrase! Is it yours, Julie?) then the gift is not just always offered,
but
> is actually delivered.
>
> So for instance, if a person is a Space Invader or just chooses not to
> play
> with the others in OST, that person still receives the gift of OST.
Have
> you see this? Am I on the right path?
>
> So where does this inquiry lead us? We won't know till we see what
> questions the answers raise....
>
> Thanks for taking this deeper, Julie!
>
>                               :-Doug. Germann
>
> PS: But my computer doesn't like that SSSSS word--three times the
spell
> check has locked my computer up over it! (Hence the spaces.) Powerful
> word,
> Julie!
>
>                               :-Doug.
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