mental meanderings and self-organization

[Ralph Copleman]

On 10/28/02 4:57 PM, "Meg Salter" <meg.salter at sympatico.ca> wrote:


 >Gravity has always been there

Actually, this is arguable.

> Self-organization is always
> present - it takes a certain mindset to talk about the world that way.

I agree self-organization has always been "there".  My complaint is that the
world has generally gotten away from the mindset to which you refer.

> So I actually don't think of self-organizing as going back to a natural
harmony,
> but going forward to our future potential. (..our past has not, as a
> speices, actually been very harmonious).

Okay, okay, so I shouldn't have said "back".  But "harmonious" as I would
mean it, has to do not only with our relations among our own kind, but with
all the other species and natural dynamics.  (By the way, look at the
lo-oonng term and you'll see that organized armed conflict between nation
states has only been around for about 10,000 years.  It appears from best
evidence that humans may have gone a couple of million years before that
without war as an everyday possibility.  Could it be?  (Could it be again?)

> - Who is the self that does the organizing?

Ah, the really big question.

Ralph Copleman

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