OST with children...

Fri Oct 4 21:22:08 PDT 2002

Elena, thank you so much for detailed response.  I AM so thankful to hear
stories like this one when the world's children are not being listened to
and the New Children who are making themselves known throughout the globe
are only beginning to speak up.  The people I have cc'd here and I have been
working with different ideas to assist children in being able to speak and
be heard.  Your story is so uplifting.

Much love and many blessings,
Toni Sar'h

----- Original Message -----
From: "Elena A. Marchuk" <marco at mail.nsk.ru>
To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: OST with children...

> Toni,
> if you know the content, you will love it even more, but I have it only in
> Russian,
> the children made the work, which the Rotarians could be proud of and
> envy... and all that at 10 o'clock in the evening (with 2 nights out of
> sleep, two whole days of 'trainings' in fundrising and 'working with
> population' which was really good but not 'garmonized' with the
surrounding
> nature (seating 8 hours on the windy and sunny place on the plastic
chairs).
> though they worked greatly, ... they love OS most of all and during 2
hours
> total (half and hour for opening, rules and topics, 15 minutes for group
> organizing and watching each other... and then great work with discussions
> in 2 short sessions of half an hour and closing when practically ALL have
> some comments for... 30 seconds on average with deep thoughts... and
wishes
> to provide next Rotaract assambly in the way of OS, which will be held
soon
> for West Siberia Rotaract on the 18-21 of October in Kemerovo, as not many
> people could go from West Siberia to Irkutsk on Baikal lake (though there
> were like 40 people from 17 cities...)
>
> I thought that they will not come... after diner, after hard work during 2
> days of workshop and not sleeping at nights... and you could see the faces
> on the opening (not very much delighted, as they were thinking of some
more
> trainings may be)... and the faces at the end, when even shaman has to
wait
> some 5-10 minutes, while the participants finished their 'closing'
words...
>
> and after Future Search Conference - YOUTH FORUM (for last year students
of
> the high shool (it would be for you) and students from the universities of
> the first years) with the name"How to envolve young people in social
> programs" with the 2 hours OS at the end... one of the boys came to me and
> said: it was like on the other planet. We were listened, we were heard, we
> worked so great!
>
> well, it looks like that young people also don't know how to be meaningful
> and find the way to do great things and rearly are given the chance to say
> their words and be involved.
>
> I'm very happy we can give it to them. and ... are going to make another
OS
> for free... as a Rotarian
>
> the young people are the 'emerging' surgace of the country, and it is very
> nice to be with them!
> I even declare the special course in our Novosibirsk State University
> "Democratic Ways of management in organizations and communities" as I have
a
> lot of practice with adults... and .. we have to start with young people
as
> well though now sponsoring it, but it is easier to teach young people then
> to re-teach grown ups.
>
> best wishes
>
> elena
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Toni Petrinovich" <sacred at anacortes.net>
> To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:51 PM
> Subject: Re: OST with children...
>
>
> > Elena, I love this!!!!  I AM passing this along by cc to a few friends
who
> > work with children and have interest in OS.  Thank you so much for
sharing
> > these with all of us!!!!
> >
> > Blessings,
> > Toni Sar'h
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Elena A. Marchuk" <marco at mail.nsk.ru>
> > To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 7:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: OST with children...
> >
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > sorry for sharing ( I hope it is not very big for you ... and an
> > > attachment... ),
> > > as I got my collection of pictures of OS (2 hours at 8-10 o'clock in
the
> > > evening... so it is a little bit dark)...on Baikal Lake on the Island
> > > Olkhon.. with Rotaract (children from 17 cities of Siberia and Far
East
> > from
> > > 16 to 25 years old I guess)
> > >
> > > and this picture is one of the other funny 'market places' in my
> > collection
> > >
> > > on the 'house' of Buriyat people - called YURTA
> > >
> > > hope to post them soon on my website www.ceres.public.nsk.ru
> > >
> > > best wishes
> > >
> > > elena
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Julie Smith" <jsmith at MOSQUITONET.COM>
> > > To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 7:44 AM
> > > Subject: Re: OST with children...
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Winston,
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure how you define "children."   I've been playing in open
> > > > space with middle school and high school students for almost six
> months
> > > > now, and having a great time.  I also have one experience with a
group
> > > > of 5th graders.  Here's a snippet of what I wrote shortly after that
> > > > experience:
> > > >
> > > > The third event was held at University Park Elementary School.  By
> this
> > > > time I was emotionally exhausted and starving..... having neglected
to
> > > > eat all day.  The class is full of very assertive and vocal kids who
> > > > were able to stay on our abstract theme for only a short time.  The
> > > > theme was "Thoughts and Feelings about September 11."  It was
chaotic
> > > > and confused.  I think a better theme would have been something less
> > > > abstract and more connected to their daily lives (perhaps a theme
> around
> > > > bullying).  The best part for me was the opportunity to connect with
a
> > > > group of boys who were disconnected from the process.  We ended up
> > > > creating a new "Z" space where the topic was Whatever You Want to
Talk
> > > > About.  Part of that conversation was about how much fun they were
> > > > having doing back flips off the swings at recess.  (I told them
about
> a
> > > > young man I knew who had done a back flip off a ramp on a snow board
> > > > without a helmet, and had ended up dying.  I told them I couldn't
tell
> > > > them what to do or not do, but I was concerned about their safety.
I
> > > > think that made a difference to at least one of the boys.)  Later,
one
> > > > of the boys (the one who was choosing to stand on the counter next
to
> > > > the sink) said he really liked Freedom.  So we talked about that for
> > > > awhile.  The boy lying face-down on the floor reading a book said he
> > > > didn't mind that people were milling about all around him, and every
> > > > once in awhile he popped up and said something that helped the
> > > > conversation along.  (As you can tell, I didn't take the silent
> > > > facilitator role in this one.  The kids seemed to really crave
> > > > interaction, and that's what felt right to me, so whatever
> happens.....)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Julie
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Chris
> > > > Corrigan
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 3:51 PM
> > > > To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> > > > Subject: Re: OST with children...
> > > >
> > > > Hi Winston, et al.:
> > > >
> > > > I did write about how quickly my (then) three year old daughter took
> to
> > > > OST in a story which you can read at
> > > > http://www.chriscorrigan.com/openspace/story_bcaafc.html
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > CHRIS CORRIGAN
> > > > Consultation - Facilitation
> > > > Open Space Technology
> > > >
> > > > Bowen Island, BC, Canada
> > > > http://www.chriscorrigan.com
> > > > chris at chriscorrigan.com
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of
> > > > Winston Kinch
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:26 PM
> > > > To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> > > > Subject: OST with children...
> > > >
> > > > I would appreciate to be reminded (senior moments increase in
> frequency)
> > > > of Open Space events involving children.  I recall (I think) Soweto,
> and
> > > > I am (kinda) sure Chris has mentioned one or  more....
> > > > Winston
> > > >
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