Word from a friend

Thu May 9 03:53:26 PDT 2002

Thank you Doris.
I have consulted my daughter and this is her answer to you:

Dear Doris,
I am very glad and touched that my words touched you and I would be honored
if you deicide to use them at any time.
Sincerely,
Shira Averbcuh

----- Original Message -----
From: Doris Gottlieb <dlgottlieb at chello.nl>
To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Word from a friend

> Dear Tova,
>
> ´My 14 year old daughter, Shira, had spoken to me few days ago with deep
> reflection in her voice ( after arguing with kids her age who hold extreme
> opinions) :"you know, Imma (Mommy' in Hebrew), I do not understand how
> people can be extreemly leftist or exrteemly rightist in this situation"
> when I questioned 'why' she answered: " because the only sane position in
> this mass, were every one is right and does wrong, in not to be sure that
> you know, and to look for what is right".´
>
> I've been more of an observer than a participant on this list,  but I very
> much wanted to thank you for your last posting.
> What a wise daughter you have. Thank you for your post and this quote from
> her, it has moved me deeply and I hope it is okay if I quote her sometimes
> when I feel in myself that I am too sure in this very complex and unsure
> world.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Doris Gottlieb
>
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]Namens Averbuch
> Verzonden: 09 05 2002 1:21
> Aan: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Onderwerp: Re: Word from a friend
>
> dearest arthur, my friend
>
>     I read your posts for about two years and I think of you as a very
wise,
> brave and honest thinker and human being.
> from this place I would like to talk to you . You wrote
>
> <. After all, Sharon and Bush are men of faith, aren't they? Aren't they?>
>
> don't you have any domestic "bad guys" ? I envy countries that do not have
> bad guys and that are spacious enough to give enough room to all the
> conflicts they carry and produce , this is why I came back with my family
> from 2 years in the US with the decision to open space in Israel, this
> "holly(and holey...) to all land".
>
> you also wrote:
> <Can you ask to your Palestinian friend, Harrison, if she has been in
Jenin
> or know of reports from people that went there? Was it a massacre or not?
A
> genocide or not? >
>
>     If you are interested in answers from people who live here you could
> turn to Avner Haramati or to me , we would personally know at least few
> people who were there as soldiers and commanders and other sources,
> secondary and direct. Or maybe we can not be an accountable witness? I can
> also give you the Email adress of this Palestinian freind of Harrison and
> Avner and myself, if that is what you wish.
> My personal opinion was, and still is, that this type of material doesn't
> belong to the list because it will close the space. I am sending this open
> letter to you in an attempt to reopen a part that I felt was closing on me
> and I hope it is acceptable.
>
>     As a way of bringing this letter to a close I would like to share two
> thing from last few days in my personal, private life :
>     1/ Yesterday, two streets away from were I live there was a suicide
> bombing in a snooker club. 15 civilians, unarmed, unprotected, half of
them
> 55 years old and above, were murdered. 50 wounded,12 of them sevirly. It
> could have been me, or you. Is that a "massacre or not"?
>
>     2/ Sometimes I envy people who live in situations in which there is
> right and wrong in a clear cut way. I don't believe I do.
> My 14 year old daughter, Shira, had spoken to me few days ago with deep
> reflection in her voice ( after arguing with kids her age who hold extreme
> opinions) :"you know, Imma (Mommy' in Hebrew), I do not understand how
> people can be extreemly leftist or exrteemly rightist in this situation"
> when I questioned 'why' she answered: " because the only sane position in
> this mass, were every one is right and does wrong, in not to be sure that
> you know, and to look for what is right".
> that made my heart move.
>
> you and this list are very dear to me
> with love,  and respect
> Tova
> Israel
> averbuch at post.tau.ac.il
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Artur Ferreira da Silva <artsilva at mail.eunet.pt>
> To: <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 2:20 AM
> Subject: Re: Word from a friend
>
>
> > At 08:17 06-05-2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> > >I resigned today from my new three month old job in Ramallah due to the
> > >humiliation I go through every day at the checkpoint between Ramallah
and
> > >Jerusalem. I have to find one now in Jerusalem where at least I know
I'll
> > >come back home safe and sane."
> >
> > Can you ask to your Palestinian friend, Harrison, if she has been in
Jenin
> > or know of reports from people that went there? Was it a massacre or
not?
> A
> > genocide or not? What are the UN and USA government waiting to
> investigate?
> >
> > If Sharon will be put to the court of the International Penal Tribunal,
> who
> > will seat side by side with him as accomplices? All of us?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Artur
> >
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