A First Step From Rome

Thu Jun 13 22:58:24 PDT 2002

Wow!

I received my OS list, digest version, this evening to see that already
this thread is so rich. So many items begging thought and response.  Due
to lack of free energy to respond more, I will be digesting in my spare
time for the next few days.  Meanwhile, some people may enjoy following
this link to Stuart Kauffman's home page at the Santa Fe Institute:
http://www.santafe.edu/sfi/People/kauffman/

On the possibility you are curious and haven't yet read his books, some
of his material is there accessible to read.  These investigations (and
others) into complex adaptive systems are quite interesting.

Grins,

Dan

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>From  Fri Jun 14 13:59:35 2002
Message-Id: <FRI.14.JUN.2002.135935.0200.>
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 13:59:35 +0200
Reply-To: florianfischer at ff-wey.com
To: OSLIST <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
From: florian fischer <florianfischer at ff-wey.com>
Subject: Re: a first step from Rome /determination
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WB-TrainConsult schrieb:

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> ....metaphor of the railway switch for the effect of past
> decisions for the future. ......sometimes this metaphor may fortify
> fatalistic
> interpretations of "beeing determined
> by our past" which is only a part of the truth, in most facilitations
> of visioning processes I experienced it was more important to
> remember everybody, that
> we can do DIFERENTLY in the future, if we start NOW.......
> I stop here, the email is already to long for pleasant reading

> Bernhard
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>
>
> dear bernhard
> i red your e-mail up to the end to honour the (well-done) effort
> of your english writing as a german-speaker. I know what it is.
>
> my understanding and as well my experience of determination
> is that we are naturally determined only of open space around us,
> which is at the same time the determination of all other being
> around us.
> its the same with boundery: which is at the same time
> as well seperation as connection of and to all the environment
> around us.
> "expanding the now" seems to me at the same time
> honouring the past as well as leaving the now
> as well as giving space to the coming now.
> about visioning I prefer not to speak about future
> and not to say "let´s start now" but to say
> "let´s go on now, the start is already in the past".
>
> florian

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florian fischer
begleitung im wandel
muenchener 6
10779 berlin
fon 0049.30. 2116752
fax 0049.30. 2115943
info at ff-wey.com

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WB-TrainConsult schrieb:
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....metaphor of the railway switch for the effect of past
 decisions for the future. ......sometimes this metaphor may fortify
fatalistic
 interpretations of "beeing determined
 by our past" which is only a part of the truth, in most facilitations
 of visioning processes I experienced it was more important to
 remember everybody, that
 we can do DIFERENTLY in the future, if we start NOW.......
 I stop here, the email is already to long for pleasant reading</blockquote>

<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Bernhard
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<p>dear bernhard
<br>i red your e-mail up to the end to honour the (well-done) effort
<br>of your english writing as a german-speaker. I know what it is.
<p>my understanding and as well my experience of <b>determination</b>
<br>is that we are naturally determined only of open space around us,
<br>which is at the same time the determination of all other being
<br>around us.
<br>its the same with boundery: which is at the same time
<br>as well seperation as connection of and to all the environment
<br>around us.
<br>"expanding the now" seems to me at the same time
<br>honouring the past as well as leaving the now
<br>as well as giving space to the coming now.
<br>about visioning I prefer not to speak about future
<br>and not to say "let´s start now" but to say
<br>"let´s go on now, the start is already in the past".
<p>florian</blockquote>
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<br>florian fischer
<br>begleitung im wandel
<br>muenchener 6
<br>10779 berlin
<br>fon 0049.30. 2116752
<br>fax 0049.30. 2115943
<br>info at ff-wey.com
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