self organizing systems and world peace

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Chris,

you wrote:
>Before we go on, I'm not sure if anyone is exactly saying that Open
>Space is a
>self-organizing system.  At least I don;t understand it that way.
>What I do
>understand to be the relationship between Open Space and self-
>organization is
>that OS works because it works in harmony with the processes of
>self-organization, which are processes that also seem to underlie
>much of the
>workings of the universe.

In my first posting, where I tried to clear thinking
before being able to contribute to the discussion in a useful way
I wrote:
<Setting: What are the external frame conditions which protect and
promote self-organization & its free development?

On that basis I would now translate your thought for me into:
OS is a way of creating a setting which protects and promotes
self-organization

Later you wrote:
>And I think that
>self-organization just is. Peace self-organizes as does conflict.

Yes, but I think we have to clearly make a distinction between
conflict and war.

I prefer, not to think of peace as a final point, the way Harrison
seems to put it. I do not see a basic contradiction between peace and
conflict.

I prefer to believe:
that there are peacful ways of dealing with conflicts.

For me a conflict is a process which results of strong differences in
interests clashing together at certain moments in social spacetime.
So conflicts are inevitable. I do not believe that there can be a
moment  when peace means absence of conflict. Because that would be
peace in the sense of eternal peace = dead. Perhaps Harrison used it
in such a way, I do not know.

To learn how to practice peacful ways of dealing with conflicts, that
is what I would like to try better than I do up to now.

peaceful = non-violent

For me war is one of the violent ways to deal with strong differences
in interests. And it is absolutely NOT self-organizing.

>>From OST I learned (and am learning) to reduce the complexity of the
question: "how can we put a maximum of differences (in interests)
together without (and be it involuntarily) supporting violent ways of
dealing with the necessarily resulting conflicts, producing a context
for emerging creativity instead?"

to a manageable set of principles and 1 law.

If there is enough space
in physical space & in the hearts

peace - a process
peace also - invaluable moments in space/time/context
peace also - a feeling

like consensus
(and be it consensus about differences)


Bernhard




>That's what
>makes unpredictable social interactions so maddening to me.  I wish
>I could
>understand why it is that human beings are able to self-organize for
>death and
>destruction as easily as they can for peace, which is to say not
>easily at all.
>But here is a story.
>
>In 1914, during the first Christmas of World War I, soldiers at the
>front
>self-organized a temporary truce.  It is one of the great stories.
>More at
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/special_report/1998/10/98/world_war_

>i/newsid_197000/197627.stm
>and http://history1900s.about.com/library/weekly/aa122100a.htm
>
>>
>> "if Open Space is a self organizing system, why are so many of us
>>on the
>> list working as consultants who facilitate Open Space Technology
>>meetings
>> and thereby interfere in a self organizing system?"
>>
>
>Is there something to the fact that interventions are a part of
>self-organization?  Chaos is just chaos.  Self-organization happens
>when
>something begins to intervene in chaos.  I don't see a
>contradiction.  Open
>Space holds it all.
>
>And anyway, I like what Jeff said.
>
>Chris
>
>
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>
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