Request Feedback on an OS Theme for a Conference on Fatherhood

Richard Schultz jr.schultz at home.com
Fri Sep 7 08:36:43 PDT 2001


Great input! Thanks Chris, Paul, Larry and others that are responding
with feedback.
As I said, we will be testing the theme on the last participants for
their reaction but, because each of you have had fathers (present or
absent), are a father, or live with fathers, then you are also the
potential audience! Therefore, your own gut feel is entirely
appropriate.  If we had an on-line version, would you be interested in
attending?  I see this growing larger than Calgary.
 
>From the last conference, it was clear that many people were at various
stages of healing with their own fathers and it is a topic that will
definitely come up again if we have the right theme. Perhaps healing
with our own fathers is the first step in creating the next generation
of fathers, and more complete men. 
 
Thanks for the book suggestions. Some other ones that I personally found
useful are: 
“Father – Son Healing, An Adult Son’s Guide”, Joseph Ilardo
“Iron John, A Book about Men”, Robert Bly
 
The speakers at our last conference have also done lots of research into
men’s issues and have written several books:
Warren Farrell:
            -  “Father & Child Reunion, How to bring the dad’s we need
to the children we love”
- “Women can’t hear what Men don’t say”
- “Why Men are the way they are”
- “ The Myth of Male Power”
 
Kyle Pruett:
-          “Fatherneed: Why Father Care is as Essential as Mother Care
for Your Child” 
-          “The Nurturing Father: Journey Towards the Complete Man”
 
Thanks again!
 
Richard Schultz
 
 
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Subject: Re: Request Feedback on an OS Theme for a Conference on
Fatherhood
 
  
"J. Paul Everett" wrote: 
Two books would be valuable for men to read.  "The Invisible Partners"
by 
John Sanford, Episcopal priest and Jungian analyst, published in 1980. 
"Marriage: Dead or Alive" by Adolph Guggenbuhl-Craig, a Swiss Jungian 
analyst. 
 
To add to that, it would be great to have your folks see the movie
"Smoke Signals" which was the first full length feature film produced,
made, conceived, directed and starring Aboriginal actors in North
America.  It is all about fathers and fathering, and it all gets tied
together with a poem at the end of the film that had me in tears for
hours acknowledging the truth of what the whole project was about.  The
poem is called "Forgiving our Fathers" and is by Dick Lourie.  It goes
like this: 
Forgiving Our Fathers 
By Dick Lourie 
 From the movie "Smoke Signals" 
 How do we forgive our fathers? 
Maybe in a dream. 
Do we forgive our fathers for leaving us too often or forever when we
were little? 
Maybe for scaring us with unexpected rage 
Or making us nervous because there never seemed 
to be any rage there at all. 
Do we forgive our fathers for marrying or not 
marrying our mothers? 
For divorcing or not divorcing our mothers? 
And shall we forgive them for their excesses of 
warmth or coldness? 
Shall we forgive them for pushing or leaning, 
for shutting doors, for speaking through walls, 
or never speaking, or never being silent? 
Do we forgive our fathers in our age or in theirs 
Or in their deaths, saying it to them or not 
saying it? 
If we forgive our fathers, what is left? 
The film was based on the book by Sherman Alexie called The
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060976241/qid=999838398/sr=2-3/
ref=aps_sr_b_1_3/104-0233825-6210339>  Lone Ranger and Tonto Fistfight
in Heaven 
Chris 
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