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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Great input! Thanks Chris, Paul, Larry and
others that are responding with feedback.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As I said, we will be testing the theme on
the last participants for their reaction but, because each of you have had fathers
(present or absent), are a father, or live with fathers, then you are also the
potential audience! Therefore, your own gut feel is entirely appropriate. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>If we had an on-line version, would you be
interested in attending? <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I see this
growing larger than </span></font><st1:City><st1:place><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Calgary</span></font></st1:place></st1:City><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>From the last conference, it was clear
that many people were at various stages of healing with their own fathers and
it is a topic that will definitely come up again if we have the right theme.
Perhaps healing with our own fathers is the first step in creating the next
generation of fathers, and more complete men. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for the book suggestions. Some
other ones that I personally found useful are: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“Father – Son Healing, An
Adult Son’s Guide”, Joseph <span class=SpellE>Ilardo</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“Iron John, <span class=GramE>A</span>
Book about Men”, Robert <span class=SpellE>Bly</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The speakers at our last conference have
also done lots of research into men’s issues and have written several
books:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Warren Farrell:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span style='mso-tab-count:1'> </span>-
<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>“Father & Child Reunion, How
to bring the dad’s we need to the children we love”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- “Women can’t
hear what Men don’t say”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- “Why Men are the
way they are”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- <span class=GramE>“
The</span> Myth of Male Power”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Kyle Pruett:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;
tab-stops:list .5in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“<span
class=SpellE>Fatherneed</span>: Why Father Care is as Essential as Mother Care
for Your Child” <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;
tab-stops:list .5in'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>“The
Nurturing Father: Journey Towards the Complete Man”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks again!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.25in'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Richard
Schultz<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> OSLIST
[mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Chris Corrigan<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><st1:date
Month="9" Day="6" Year="2001"><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>September
6, 2001</span></font></st1:date><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'> </span></font><st1:time
Hour="23" Minute="10"><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>11:10 PM</span></font></st1:time><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Request Feedback on an
OS Theme for a Conference on Fatherhood</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>"J. Paul Everett" wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' TYPE=CITE>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Two books would be valuable for men to read.
"The Invisible Partners" by <br>
John Sanford, Episcopal priest and Jungian analyst, published in 1980. <br>
"Marriage: Dead or Alive" by Adolph Guggenbuhl-Craig, a Swiss Jungian
<br>
analyst. <br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>To add to that, it would be great to have your folks
see the movie "Smoke Signals" which was the first full length feature
film produced, made, conceived, directed and starring Aboriginal actors in
North America. It is all about fathers and fathering, and it all gets
tied together with a poem at the end of the film that had me in tears for hours
acknowledging the truth of what the whole project was about. The poem is
called "Forgiving our Fathers" and is by Dick Lourie. It goes
like this: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><b><i><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Forgiving Our
Fathers</span></font></i></b> <br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>By Dick Lourie</span></i> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><i><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-style:italic'> From the movie "Smoke
Signals"</span></font></i> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><i><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-style:italic'> How do we forgive our fathers?</span></font></i>
<br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>Maybe in a dream.</span></i> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><i><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-style:italic'>Do we forgive our fathers for
leaving us too often or forever when we were little?</span></font></i> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><i><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-style:italic'>Maybe for scaring us with unexpected
rage</span></font></i> <br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>Or making us nervous because there never
seemed</span></i> <br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>to be any rage there at all.</span></i> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><i><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-style:italic'>Do we forgive our fathers for
marrying or not</span></font></i> <br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>marrying our mothers?</span></i> <br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>For divorcing or not divorcing our mothers?</span></i>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><i><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-style:italic'>And shall we forgive them for their
excesses of</span></font></i> <br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>warmth or coldness?</span></i> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><i><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-style:italic'>Shall we forgive them for pushing or
leaning,</span></font></i> <br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>for shutting doors, for speaking through
walls,</span></i> <br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>or never speaking, or never being silent?</span></i>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><i><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-style:italic'>Do we forgive our fathers in our age
or in theirs</span></font></i> <br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>Or in their deaths, saying it to them or not</span></i>
<br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>saying it?</span></i> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><i><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-style:italic'>If we forgive our fathers, what is
left?</span></font></i> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>The film was based on the book by Sherman Alexie
called <i><span style='font-style:italic'><a
href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060976241/qid=999838398/sr=2-3/ref=aps_sr_b_1_3/104-0233825-6210339">The
Lone Ranger and Tonto Fistfight in Heaven</a></span></i> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Chris <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>-- <br>
CHRIS CORRIGAN <br>
Consultation - Facilitation <br>
Open Space Technology <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><a href="http://www.chriscorrigan.com">http://www.chriscorrigan.com</a>
<br>
corcom@interchange.ubc.ca <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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