Central Asia

[kenoli Oleari]

Absolutely!  She has said it all. -- Kenoli

>Kenoli and others,
>this has been a marvelous conversation with so many good thoughts. Thank
>you.
>
>I add the four laws of Spirit from Angeles Arrien, 1. Show up and be
>present; 2. Tell the truth without blame or judgement; 3. Follow what has
>heart and meaning; and 4. Let go of attachment to outcome.
>
>I think this supports what you and Julie have said.
>
>Blessings,
>Birgitt
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]On Behalf Of kenoli
>Oleari
>Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:35 PM
>To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>Subject: Re: Central Asia
>
>
>Birgitt --
>
>Well the one truth we can rely on is the truth of our own experience,
>and often the most direct way to uncover this is to be connected with
>our feelings.  Otherwise, there is the data that we have access to,
>in the context of client organizations, this would encompass the
>"givens" in the  sense that you use them in reference to Open space.
>
>To stay in touch with our truth, it means we must do our own work
>around being able to show up and be present.  If we haven't done this
>-- as Kathie Dannemiller once pointed out to me -- we can't really be
>good consultants to our clients because we will need to be consulting
>to our own needs.
>
>I think if we show up, openly and honestly, with all we know and all
>we are, we have good chance of engaging in a truthful manner.  I
>think absolute and relative truths are things that come up when we
>try to deal with experience from an abstract perspective.  I think
>they are the children of academics and theologians, attempts to
>create and "objective" reality.
>
>Kenoli
>
>>Kenoli,
>>I am wondering what your thoughts are about "truth"--> relative truth,
>>absolute truth, truth for the moment???? I agree it is powerful and I know
>>my personal experience when I hear a "truth" and yet I cannot define what
>>truth is.
>>
>>Blessings,
>>Birgitt
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]On Behalf Of kenoli
>>Oleari
>>Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 6:40 PM
>>To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>>Subject: Re: Central Asia
>>
>>
>>Uwe -- I think this quote from your email could be carved in stone
>>somewhere;
>>
>>>"people can live with constraints and limitations, but not with
>>>deception and lies."
>>
>>Truth is incredibly powerful, and the deeper the truth, the more
>>powerful.  We need to tell our truths about ourselves, too, and about
>>the costs that may come from accepting any particular set of
>>constraints, or the costs we may have already paid.  Telling the
>>truth can be used to justify not so desirable situations, also, when
>>we do not feel free to act.  Truth is most powerful when it is given
>>with authenticity and openness to honoring free choice within the
>>existing constraints.  Can we honor our freedom and right and
>>responsibility to act to determine our futures, as well as to talk
>>about them?  Can we take full responsibility?
>>
>>Kenoli
>>
>>--
>>Kenoli Oleari, Horizons of Change, http://www.horizonsofchange.com
>>1801 Fairview Street, Berkeley, CA  94703   Voice Phone: 510-601-8217,
>>Fax: 510-595-8369, Email: kenoli at igc.org (or click on:
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>1801 Fairview Street, Berkeley, CA  94703   Voice Phone: 510-601-8217,
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