OS in Siberia

Thu Jun 29 16:41:45 PDT 2000

Thank you, Megan for your warm words.

That is your nice community also which is given strength to me!

Best wishes
Elena

-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]On Behalf Of Davis,
Megan
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 12:34 AM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: OS in Siberia

Elena,

Thank you so much for telling us about your Open Space afternoon. I feel
warmed by your enthusiasm and your success! And inspired, too. Your courage
and preparation and willingness to be surprised brought your participants a
wonderful opportunity.

Megan Davis

> ----------
> From:         Elena A. Marchuk[SMTP:marco at mail.nsk.ru]
> Sent:         Thursday, June 29, 2000 9:02 AM
> To:   OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject:      OS in Siberia
>
> Hi all OSers!
>
> I'm Elena Marchuk, from Novosibirsk, West Siberia - the geographical
> center
> of Russia.
>
> I want to thank you all whom I write personally and who helped me with
> their
> advises and inspiration...
>
> that is Harrison Owen - first, then Peggy Holman - the book of whom I'm in
> love - I mean The Change Handbook,
> Michael Pannwitz with his equipping me with 1 and 2 hours design of OSs
> and
> his report on Moscow training.
>
> And all who participate in the discussion on OSlist about  2 hours OS
> which
> I just followed silently...
>
> THANK YOU!
>
> I had 3 hours.
>
> So I feeled a little bit relaxed with timing but very worried what those
> Russians will do with the method and small timing - from 2 to 5 pm.
>
> The topic was "Civic Initiatives" in the afternoon of the Conference
> "Local
> governments and NGOs - from interconnection to partnership" . two sessions
> were very traditional - one with 13 speakers (in a hot day), another like
> round table - also with honoured speakers
>
> and ours - with OS...
>
> it was 40 people
>
> first we moved to a more fresh aired room from 2:00 pm to 2:15( from 2-nd
> to
> 5-th flor, those who was very tired - by the lift)
>  and then installing in a circle
>
> then 15 miniutes of instructions.
>
> and you should see this frustraited faces - what we have to do with this?
>
> then one after another we had about 15 topics..
>
> then signing and organizing 6 groups.
>
> 2:45.
> I desided that there will be one session of 45 minutes as we had to
> prepare
> the general presentation for the plenary session (from 5 to 6 pm), and
> that's why we have to listen what groups would working on and decide to
> present.
>
> So I told  them that they have 45 minutes for discussing their topics and
> for preparing the report on a flipchart,
>
> 3:30. two groups from 6 were ready and all others asked for 5 minutes
> more...
>
> 3:45 we started presentations - they were nice and everybody listened as
> the
> topics was intersting for all.
>
> one group presented two reports on different topics - one evaluation of
> the
> work of NGOs and the other - Working through Internet
>
> one woman after working in a group, as nobody signed on her proposed
> topic,
> wrote quicly on a flipchart the presentation on her topic and made a
> report - why not - ecological education...
>
> we ended in 4:20 with presentations (a little bit less then 5 min each
> together with the applouds) and discussed 15 min the results we shoul
> present on a plenary and then
>
> 15 min of closing session where people surprised that it worked somehow
> and
> it was great experience where NGOs representetives and local government
> officers worked together as normal people...and very democratic and
> wonderful...
>
> Marina, my friend, said that I always had a smile on my face and smoothed
> all hard parts by saying - that is your chance to say everything you want
> and find partners right here in the room...
>
> So it  looks like we all won!
>
> we shall print all the results tomorrow and will put them in the
> newsletter
>
> Thanks a lot to everybody and for OS and for Harrison who invented this
> method. he said that I have just to try.
> I did
> Best wishes to all!
>
> elena marchuk, Ph.D.
> director of the Regional Development Center "Ceres"
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU]On Behalf Of Doersam,
> Laurel
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 12:03 AM
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject: Re: I need advice . . .
>
>
> Thanks, Michelle.  The time factor is a huge caution for me, too.  I
> wonder
> if they care enough to devote the time they need to resolving the issue?
> I
> think I'll need to take a firm stand on this.  What is your opinion of
> spreading the space over several subsequent sessions?  (When I voiced my
> concerns about the time issue, they were prepared to devote a couple of
> followup weekly sessions of two hours - but again the same issue of
> opening
> space "a little" - just as people start to become engaged in the process,
> it's time to go scrub!)  The other complicating thing is that the
> physicians
> have the largest interest in getting home on time because they don't get
> paid any extra for being there late - the others get compensated, so there
> are certainly power issues involved.
>
> Do you think this could be spread over a few weeks, or should I hold out
> for
> a full day?
>
> Laurel.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michelle Cooper [mailto:coopgrp at INTERLYNX.NET]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 11:34 AM
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject: Re: I need advice . . .
>
>
> HI Laurel;
> I would suggest not using open space for two hours for this particular
> scenario. OST is just the right process for the problem, but anything less
> than 4 hours would have the potential to backfire and a day would be
> minimal
> in my opinion for this issue. It sounds typical of the desire for instant
> fixes to huge problems that is rampant in health care. My other concern is
> that they will be so caught up with being ready for the OR to start, they
> may not be fully present. I would suggest that if they are truly committed
> to resolving the problem, they will dedicate more time to it and they will
> find a way to make the time happen. Sometimes that requires investing in
> time on a weekend or (god forbid) closing down the OR for a half day.
> This
> is often done when anaesthetists go for their annual conference!! My
> thinking is that a 2 hour event in any form is not going to help them
> resolve the issues. They are likely looking at many 2 hour sessions which
> would have the same effect on productivity as closing the OR for a day and
> not nearly as effective as just one day in open space.
>
> One of my nursing colleagues participated in a 2 hour "demonstration"
> event
> recently at a conference where there was not particular passionate issues.
> She said that people got into the discussion so deeply, that they were
> angry
> when they were forced to stop. Not in the spirit of OS and could
> particularly backfire if volatile issues got raised that could not be
> discussed until "it is over".
>
> Two hours might get you an opportunity to do some story telling to start
> people getting a handle on the issue and then follow with a longer open
> space.
>
> My humble opinion;
> Michelle
>
>
> Michelle Cooper, RN, MScN
> The Cooper Group Consultants
> 200 Crestview  Avenue
> Ancaster, Ontario
> Canada L9G1E2
> Telephone -     (905) 648- 4633
> Fax -           (905) 648-1763
> E-mail          coopgrp at interlynx.net
> The paradox of control is simple. The more we try to control life, the
> less control we have.  Joan Borysenko, Ph.D., Minding The Body, Mending
> The
> Mind
>

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