Electronic follow up

Esther Ewing eewing at inforamp.net
Mon Jun 28 05:03:39 PDT 1999


What is CPSI? I've never heard of it.

Esther


At 10:56 PM 6/27/99 -0600, you wrote:
>At 11:32 PM 6/26/99 +0200, you wrote:
>>At 00:43 26-06-1999 -0600, you wrote:
>>>Koos's observations are excellent,
>>>and I agree with him almost entirely.
>>almost?? ;-)
>
>I thought I'd leave an escape hatch open, just in case! ;-)
>
>>>Three very critical factors, in
>>>my experience, have been: whether or not the group has a history, whether
>>>group members belong to one organization or are members of a relatively
>>>open-boundaried community, and the task undertaken by the group.
>>
>>Yes, I can see that. Could you say some more about
>>what kind of tasks in your experience are OK for
>>electronic contact and what tasks aren't?
>
>Shoot, there is a price to be paid for breaking one's silence;  one
>actually needs to communicate clearly!! ;-)
>
>Full disclosure; YMMV; void where prohibited; S&H extra; for entertainment
>purposes only; etc.  Now ... (I'm trying to do this while my 5-year old son
>competes for my attention)
>
>Tasks with relatively high informative content vs. affective/emotive
>content are the best, esp. for zero history groups, or groups that have had
>no face-to-face (f2f) contact, and most esp. when both these conditions
>hold.  Where the groups have had prior history, and esp. f2f contact, one
>can drift into the emotive zone.  Personally, being a touchy-feely kind of
>guy, that's when I drop the technology entirely and go off with group into
>the woods, so to speak.
>
>F2f interaction has an inherent structurational advantage:  Group and
>process structuring can emerge very rapidly from the Group Plasma (for want
>of a better term) -- the dynamic Hot Zone consisting of people, issues,
>interactions, decisions, emotions, etc. generated during an f2f group
>process.  There is no worthy equivalent in the electronic context (so far).
> The effort involved in creating and directing structure in the electronic
>context is (relatively) enormous, and cannot happen without a lot of
>cooperation from the participants.  And generating cooperation from a
>"non-captive" group is challenging.  Consequently, a lot of the structure
>has to be provided up front, and participants generally need to "sign-on"
>to the structure, or stay out.  This may sound no different from OS and
>other f2f processes, but there is a lot more faith that is demanded in the
>electronic context (which may need to be substituted with information where
>such faith is not forthcoming), than in f2f.
>
>This list (OSLIST), has been in action for how long?  20 months?  We have
>been having a lot of free-ranging discussion.  Bear in mind that
>practically everyone on this list shared an interest in OS at the time of
>joining, and many already knew each other in realspace.  Imagine trying to
>organize an OS right off the bat, electronically.  Not impossible, I
>concede, but challenging.
>
>
>>
>>>In
>>>particular, there is a huge difference between an open community, which is
>>>what OSLIST is, and members of an organization with multiple, ongoing
>>>relationships.  The dynamics are very different.
>>
>>Sounds by all means reasonable. Nevertheless, if you have
>>specific examples, it would help to grasp the idea.
>>Thanks,
>>Koos
>
>Over the years of facilitating face-to-face (f2f) electronically mediated
>groups (and from being part of such an organization) I have found that a
>prior history of f2f interaction can both help and hinder computer
>mediation.  The help part includes:  being able to interpret words as they
>were "actually meant", and the dynamic, near instant co-accomodation (much
>like a dance) that happens among participants.  The hinder part includes:
>a potential loss of candor caused by the fact people almost always can
>guess at who is saying what (one stated "benefit" of electronic mediation
>is the ability to post items anonymously, if such is necessary).  Even when
>anonymity is not an issue, members of groups with a history tend to fall
>into overlearned interactional patterns which may be detrimental to making
>a breakthrough.
>
>---------
>
>As an aside, anybody on this list been to CPSI Buffalo?  I'm a CPSI addict
><best drug for me, bar none>, and just returned from there.  Would love to
>hear from you, and whether you see any possible linkages between there and
>this forum (please communicate with me directly, to conserve list bandwidth).
>
>Murli
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