<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hi Michael,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">thank you for posting lists of what you have realized that people prefer and what people appreciate and using the term 'generally' as in no fixed rules about conversation. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">As I read your post, I reflected on what I prefer and why I have participated on this list almost from the beginning. I am passionate about freedome of speech accompanied by The Law of Two Feet, knowing I have choice to focus on what I prefer to focus on and what I prefer to veer away from with my energy. I am passionate about embracing diversity, inclusion, and belonging hence I love being aware that space is open for diverse perspectives, whether or not they line up with my own. I am passionate about being able to sit in silence, reflecting on what I have read, no matter the post, knowing all of it is exactly what is meant to be, and all can assist me in my growth and expansion, helping me to leave behind limiting beliefs and thoughts.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I post to thai list when something is important to me to say, which may or may not be important to anyone else. 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What is the etiquette for posting to OSLIST?</strong></p><p style="margin:0px 0px 1.71429rem;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:1.71429;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:"Open Sans",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">There are no hard and fast rules about what to post to OSLIST, but in general people appreciate the following:</p><ul style="margin:0px 0px 1.71429rem;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;list-style-position:outside;line-height:1.71429;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:"Open Sans",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.57143rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Questions about working with Open Space Technology</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.57143rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Answers to relevant questions</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.57143rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Stories about Open Space Technology meetings</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.57143rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Poems (there is a regular poetry contest that happens every six months or so)</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.57143rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Notices of upcoming Open Space Technology training or conferences</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.57143rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Resource material that may be of interest to Open Space Technology facilitators</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.57143rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Opportunities and calls for OST facilitators.</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.57143rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Introductions from new subscribers</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.57143rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Discussion about theories and ideas that can help to improve the understanding and practice of Open Space Technology</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.57143rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Experiences working with Open Space Organizations</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.57143rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Accounts of other ways of “opening space.”.</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.57143rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Posts in languages other than English are acceptable. OSLIST has readers who speak Cantonese, German, Swedish, Danish, Mandarin, Hindi, Russian, Portuguese, Hebrew, Haitian Creole, Spanish and French among others and items have been posted in several of these languages in the past.</li></ul><p style="margin:0px 0px 1.71429rem;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:1.71429;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:"Open Sans",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">In general, OSLIST users seem to prefer that people avoid the following:</p><ul style="margin:0px 0px 1.71429rem;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:14px;vertical-align:baseline;list-style-position:outside;line-height:1.71429;color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:"Open Sans",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.57143rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Attachments. Please either post these to a website and provide the link to the list, or ask people to indicate if they wish to receive them off list. Viruses are sent as attachments, and so most people will routinely delete them if they are not sent personally.</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.57143rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Flaming. We are a pretty congenial group, and flaming is relatively unknown amongst us. It would be nice to keep it that way. If you have negative things to say about individuals it would be appreciated if you could keep them off list.</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.57143rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Virus warnings. If you absolutely feel the need to post a virus warning to the list please ensure that the warning is not a hoax by first checking with the Symantec AntiVirus<a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/wiki.cgi?action=edit&id=AntiVirus" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;outline:none;color:rgb(204,68,0)" target="_blank">?</a> Centre at <a href="http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline;outline:none;color:rgb(204,68,0)" target="_blank">http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/</a></li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.57143rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline">Please try to avoid sending messages in HTML. Plain text is preferred on this list. All mail browsers have this option.</li><li style="margin:0px 0px 0px 2.57143rem;padding:0px;border:0px;vertical-align:baseline">It must also be said that the jury is still out on small personal notes of appreciation or support to individuals. Some feel that these are a waste of bandwidth and add to an increasingly heavy personal email load. Others feel that personal messages of support sent to the list provide valuable affirmation to individuals by recognizing them within the worldwide community of Open Space Technology practitioners. It’s best to use your own judgment on this. If you do post notes like this to the list, be aware that the reception of others may be mixed.</li></ul><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div> <br>--<br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates</div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">312-280-7838 (mobile)</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><a href="http://MichaelHerman.com" target="_blank">MichaelHerman.com</a><br><a href="http://OpenSpaceWorld.org" target="_blank">OpenSpaceWorld.org</a></div><div><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 2:50 AM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear Tony,<br>
<br>
yes, of course, there are rules and etiquette guiding our postings on <br>
OSLIST.<br>
<br>
One surefire way to harm those rules and etiquette is to set up controls.<br>
<br>
My understanding of our rules and etiquette is to attempt to focus on <br>
the unfolding of selforganisation... as a human critter, facilitator... <br>
and participant on the OSLIST.<br>
<br>
And I claim to not only assume but to know that there is no better way <br>
for our exchange.<br>
<br>
Just now I am thinking of how I talk about issues and breakout session <br>
when opening the market place, taking one of the issues posted as an <br>
example:<br>
<br>
"Ok, here is what can happen in a breakout session. One of us has posted <br>
the issue "money" and goes to the space chosen for that issue and <br>
anxiously awaits the arrival of all those that are also interested in <br>
his burning issue. Nobody comes. Even after 5 minutes waiting he is <br>
still there all by himself. He ponders on why nobody shows up, <br>
especially for this particularly importang issue... and is on the fringe <br>
of getting up and to take a nap. No, he says to himself, this is really <br>
an important issue. And it is the right time to have a deep exchange on it.<br>
And apparently, I am the only person with enough competence to deal with it.<br>
He simply starts working on it and gets done in 15 minutes, nobody <br>
interrupting him, writes his report and posts it."<br>
<br>
In my experience, this does not happen very often.<br>
<br>
Have a great day<br>
mmp<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 28.04.2022 um 02:57 schrieb Tony Budak via OSList:<br>
> Dear Colleagues,<br>
> Is there a Listserv Rules and Etiquette to guide the posting on OSList?<br>
> <br>
> Whatever the answer, I respectfully ask you all not to stray off of our <br>
> Listserv topic, Open Space Tech?<br>
> <br>
> Cheers,<br>
> Tony Budak<br>
> <br>
> On 4/27/2022 7:24 PM, Mark Carmel via OSList wrote:<br>
>> <a href="https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/04/27/1-cryptocurrency-with-5400-upside-cathie-wood/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/04/27/1-cryptocurrency-with-5400-upside-cathie-wood/</a> <br>
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