<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Jeff,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I just re-read your posts. Perhaps because I’m probably near you on that pole, I found nothing inappropriate or offensive in what you said. I thought Mark said it well — you were open and honest. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">John — thanks for the nod on graphics. I don’t recall if I’ve mentioned it…I have a chapter on my website originally written for a book that didn’t happen on <a href="https://peggyholman.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Holman-Engaging-Emergence-Chapter.pdf" class="">Engaging Emergence: Designing Conversations that Work</a> that has my favorite framework for thinking about the work we do. I don’t know that it can turn bad bosses into good ones. It does offer a path for those with even a hint of curiosity about the potential of self-organization.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class="">Best of the season to all,</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div>Peggy</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">
<meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">________________________________</div>Peggy Holman<br class="">Co-founder<br class="">Journalism That Matters<br class="">Bellevue, WA  98006<br class="">206-948-0432<br class=""><a href="http://www.journalismthatmatters.org" class="">www.journalismthatmatters.org</a><br class="">www.peggyholman.com<br class="">Twitter: @peggyholman<br class="">JTM Twitter: @JTMStream<br class=""><br class="">Enjoy the award winning <a href="http://www.engagingemergence.com" class="">Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into Opportunity</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 15, 2021, at 11:43 PM, Katherine Jennings via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Shalom beloved </div><div dir="auto" class="">Rest and reflect in your retreat mode</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Sincerely </div><div dir="auto" class="">K.Sweetness Jennings </div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 10:48 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" class="">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">I apologize to Mark and everyone on the list for the recent posts I made on Mark's thread. <div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">They were, as I read them now, clumsy and needlessly provocative and thoughtless.<div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I am going to stop for a long period of reflection. </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Jeff<br class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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